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calling all beings y'all

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yeah

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welcome back to calling all beings

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i'm your host dj along with my co-host

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money nate also known as nftnate all i

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know is that he money in the bank and

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guess what we got a new member of the

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team right here

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we got associate producer put them hands

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all right man

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hit it brother

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[Laughter]

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party people let's let's talk about what

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we got going on tonight we talking about

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the power couple we talking about they

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went from different continents to get

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together to put together something we

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called la

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love is in the air baby can you feel

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what i'm saying nathan i can brother i

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can love is in the air they got

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beautiful hair beautiful faces man let

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me get some of that man kick that

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yeah this is what i'm talking about

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people put your hands together for prime

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time prime time

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artemis and the beautiful josh from the

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united kingdom put them hands together

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can i get it hey everybody please and

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put them hands together

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yeah look at her man check this out josh

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this is what i got

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josh i'm i don't care what

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you know you look beautiful josh i don't

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care what she got to say man that's the

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you know she looks beautiful too what is

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up welcome people

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thanks man yeah it's it's a pleasure to

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be here it's um it's late in the uk but

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your voice dj has perked me up so so

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much so yeah it's a pleasure thanks oh

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man that makes me feel good artemis

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homegirl we've been waiting to get on

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air together

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and we don't did it

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i'll tell you what and i'll tell you

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what yeah fast friends i'm i'm sorry

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does somebody say nathan man what's up

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man what what's up it's uh it's artemis

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and josh ready or not here we come i

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can you keep up man you had me doing

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like four different things still i still

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like the

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we're very excited to have you guys

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nathan has given me the honor

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of having the first question

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for this

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this transcontinental love couple who

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just it it warms me hot

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do you know what i'm saying just it

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and so my first question is for artemis

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so now i'm going to get serious

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but well in order to do that let me put

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my hand up because i don't want to have

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hair too yeah oh we're getting serious

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now i feel like i'm really part of the

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yeah i mean yeah hey dj

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i'm hearing there's might be some

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echoing do we know who okay

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deborah

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okay thank you just let us know yes

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please dab that's uh my homies posted at

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a study of ufos and uaps deb is a

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brilliant researcher uh with just an

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android phone she's been able to scour

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the internet and find

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hundreds and hundreds of documents wow

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check out deb anyway uh she'll have her

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own channel it's not gonna be long uh so

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um so my first question is for artemis

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and i thought we'd have a little bit of

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fun with this first one artemis

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what i thought we would do is to make

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ground rule just for this question and

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this is all of course with your

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concurrence but i want to ask you

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what is most important to you regarding

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this entire topic but without using the

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word or the inference transparency

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because everyone goes we need disclosure

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what's important to me is that we did

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get this quote and it's like okay

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everybody on ufo twitter agrees on that

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you know to me like like like when i

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hear or read or see tic tac it really

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stimulates me um from my standpoint

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that's not the only thing there's a lot

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of things but what is very stimulating

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well i mean i think all of it is pretty

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i was i was interested what kind of

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moose are you using i'm just kidding go

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ahead no i uh don't use moose i'm

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actually torn this before the show so

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the only thing i use in my hair is base

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conditioner that's so that's what we're

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wow okay so for everybody out there that

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that was going to chime in with that

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question it's been answered let's move

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on to artemis

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i'm sorry flair

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i'm sure claire had it ready

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no i you looked absolutely phenomenal

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today i think you wowed all of ufo

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twitter um not the least of which was

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josh so thank you artemis uh

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it's a pretty good reason look at it

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i think how do you use a bit low um

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artemis you can turn your mic up a

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little bit something's a bit lower yes

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yes ma'am let's get the volume up a

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little bit there or bring it i'll bring

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truly because i i really kind of want to

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get into

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you know how you how you got into this

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uh what was it were you one of those uh

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kids who was looking up at the stars did

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you have a sighting was there something

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that was the uh sort of beginning for

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you the genesis of your love and

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interest for for this topic

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um i never had like a sighting or

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experience as a kid but i definitely was

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in the like the sci-fi topic i watched

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like star trek with my dad like

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and like we watched like all the

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classics like dinah her cookies

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like superman like but the like old

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yeah just like all the

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just like that whole

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idea that like more is out there and

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that like whenever i thought of like

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space and if we're alone like that was

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it was obvious that we weren't alone

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what did your father say to you when

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no like back then what kind of things

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what were those discussions like

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so was i and my sister was like she's

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and uh

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so i was like kind of the one also like

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lord of the rings harry potter like i

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got into like all of that

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but no theories no theories from your

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you know what he he's like

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i don't know he i i don't speak to him

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yeah i don't speak to him now but i

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definitely believes that there's like

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more out there that's probably why he

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yeah this is the kind of guy he was but

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yeah so he he basically did get me into

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yeah it's just been like a whirlwind and

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then i met josh yeah oh we're gonna get

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love is in the air

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everywhere i look around

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nathan got the next question yeah i mean

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i'm curious so who whose idea was it to

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do the show and

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were both of you sort of into it in the

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same way or was one of you a little bit

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more reluctant to do that

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um well with me personally um i came

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of this year but but like before came

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i was speaking to vinnie from from my

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disclosure team i'm sure i'm sure you

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yeah but yeah um

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so he was like kind of the big reason

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why i wanted to come online he was like

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um and i came online and since

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since started my page in july i've had

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the idea that i wanted to do a channel

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um but i didn't really get around to

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doing it and it was only when like me

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and we kind of just wanted to come

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because um there isn't really anyone out

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um doing a channel together so we

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a unique angle

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as well and it's and and the fact that

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um at that time there wasn't really any

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female co-hosts or hosts really there

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wasn't much much of that around so we

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thought it'd be cool that there would

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there would always be a permanent a

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female host there as well which i

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thought which of what was really

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important to have absolutely

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yeah so so that's like the that's like

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the main reason why well not the main

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reason but one one of the big reasons

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why we wanted to do the channel was to

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have like a have like a kind of like an

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inclusive voice if that makes sense oh

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absolutely

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yeah i i'm so impressed by you guys i

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mean i i i saw akashi

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okay i'm gonna try to whisper although i

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just project

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you're good you're good to go you do

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your thing i'm like broadway um but um

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no i mean like watching you guys show

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you guys make such a

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am i still too loud why are you actually

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no you're good

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that was jazz

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don't say jazz you know what happens

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dolphins appear across the screen

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right there

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but um and no i i love the chemistry in

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the in your show because it's like you

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guys are a couple that came together and

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obviously you guys are a little bit

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interested in

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you have different realms i mean you you

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guys cover the

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gamut

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uh

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of all of it together

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you guys got a green world on your first

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episode oh no i can't believe you did

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that

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yeah these guys are

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go ahead sir

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i'm going to say i kind of want to do

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that one again at some point in green

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world because we're really nervous that

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was our first show

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and we didn't have like the setup there

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at all so we're both really nervous and

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so i kind of want to get him on again at

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some point so greenwald if they see this

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we need you again mate we need you again

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for sure oh yes absolutely yeah these

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guys are doing us a favor by coming on

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here because they've already had like

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some of the biggest guests in the entire

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thing so uh i appreciate it man

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this is online louis online guys

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oh

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[Laughter]

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he just probably finished his show oh no

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tonight was uh daniel miller right

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yeah

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well let me let me get into a little bit

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a little the weeds here on the show so

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you know dj and i obviously were doing

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this show and and we kind of split some

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responsibilities you know who who's

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doing the art who's doing the uh the

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guest lining up is it a joint effort do

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you guys uh debrief after each show kind

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of go over what went well what didn't

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how do you approach it

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well um well yeah in terms of artemis

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she's like really good with like

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speaking to people behind the scenes and

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because of she used to work with um ucr

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um she's kind of got a lot of um she's

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got she's got a lot of um got a lot of

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hiss in terms of the guests we have on

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she's got some history of like and green

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wolf for example she spoke to him before

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right and so that was kind that was

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quite easy to arrange

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um

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so she's kind of like the main person

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really with with like that side of

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things in terms of the post as i do that

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on my phone i've got canva like i'm on

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like the app

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i just use canva to make those posters

378
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it's an awesome app yeah i use that too

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yeah it's really good yeah um the logo

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together like we we do everything joint

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but he's definitely in charge of doing

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the posters and

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getting those up

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um so we do have like our strong points

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i think that we just come together but

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we do like

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we discuss everything we look through

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like what we can talk about

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um

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yeah like how we think it went or like

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um and who else we want to have on for

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sure we're like

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always talking and like looking at

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um accounts and stuff in the background

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and

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figure out like who we want to speak

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with so

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it's fun and like

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still like i sometimes think like i

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can't believe we're doing this like

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it's incredible that's what we think

402
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yeah every day every day

403
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you know how did this happen

404
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yeah

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i just bought like a new camera and we

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have like a nice mic set up like when

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john comes back we're like we're all set

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up at our like little office and like

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it's just like damn it's like it's real

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you know we're doing this we're actually

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able to speak on like a topic

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about and getting

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you know the word out just like

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everybody else wants to like and work

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towards that same goal

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wait no disclosure

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no

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the goal the same goal the inference

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we know what it is

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yeah a disclosure and what was the other

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one transparency we got it i can't say i

422
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really want to know playing a drinking

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game

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yeah it is in fact i'm gonna did i you

425
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did you were good you're good he's

426
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trying to trick you he's trying to don't

427
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don't listen to him you block him out

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he's tricking you

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no

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you can't block me

431
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all right so

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josh my friend

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i would like to

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get inside of what is important i mean

435
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there's been a lot of stuff lately we

436
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just had i just heard on our friend our

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mutual friend andy actually everybody on

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the show's mutual friend andy for that

439
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matter uh spoke about um had uh john

440
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ramirez on and they talked about about

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this gene uh help me out nathan so

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basically it was like ah an infusion of

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genes or a um

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how did they characterize that hybrid a

445
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yeah hybridization

446
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uh or a

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enhancing

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of our gene that happened 70 000 years

449
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ago and believe it or not that was

450
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before me and uh just barely yeah

451
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we just we just made it under the wire

452
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yes yeah and so

453
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we have issues like that we have issues

454
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like the us the uas is happening

455
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underwater i'm interested what floats

456
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your proverbial boat

457
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well with this top like i'm pretty much

458
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on on like the fence of everything like

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i i do know that we've had like the gila

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brands mmn which is coming out well it's

461
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still not hasn't come come through yet

462
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in terms of the vote but we're hoping

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that that's going to come through

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um

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you know so there's a lot of things what

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could happen in terms of the future so

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in terms of 2022 there's a lot of

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potential for that to be a really great

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year but you know until this stuff

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actually goes through i'm very much on

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the fence because i've been doing i've

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been you know in in terms of my research

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and um

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and reading and things i've been doing

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it since my teens really i'm 33 now

476
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wow you know i started doing this when i

477
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was like benji what up man you know i

478
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started doing this and

479
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well when like i first started of it was

480
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like grade school so i was like eight

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years old

482
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and my interest started i picked up this

483
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book from the library it was just like a

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picture book

485
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um but it was like full of like pictures

486
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of ufos so that's where like my um

487
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that's kind of where like it started for

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me

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and in my teens that's when i started to

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research it and you know

491
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you know in terms of this topic oh you

492
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know you

493
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get fed down the garden path a lot you

494
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know and like you think you get you

495
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think you if you think you're on the

496
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right track and you think things moving

497
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in the right way

498
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and then the rug gets pulled from under

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your feet again so i'm very much on the

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fence but i'm i'm hopeful you know for

501
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the future of this but

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um

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you know i'm still much i'm still on the

504
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fence of it all if

505
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honest

506
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but my leading theory um

507
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either but just so it's just so many

508
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yeah

509
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what's the very latest thing where you

510
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said like you you sort of had a theory

511
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you were following down a path and and

512
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standing on a rug and then someone

513
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yanked that rug what's the latest

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um

515
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the latest one would it well

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um

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off the top of my head i'm not sure just

518
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because it would it would have been a

519
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long time ago because

520
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you know with like the recent news like

521
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when like the article came out a few

522
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years ago in the new york times that's

523
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kind of like the next um cycle if that

524
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makes sense so we're still kind of in

525
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that cycle now yeah and it's come to a

526
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point with like the gila brand amendment

527
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which hopefully if that goes through

528
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um that could be a big step

529
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um

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but even then even if that goes through

531
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i mean i'm still

532
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i'm still a bit curious as to what we'll

533
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actually get get to see at the end of

534
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the day

535
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yeah i mean so so even if all this goes

536
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through like what data do we actually

537
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get get to see yeah like i i do

538
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understand that it's going to be

539
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important and we'll get to have these

540
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reports

541
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um potentially and obviously the

542
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oversight from like the the

543
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amendment you know places like the

544
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department of energy which which haven't

545
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you know they've been exempt from a lot

546
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of all this for like years so the fact

547
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that they're gonna be they're gonna have

548
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to hand over the things what they have

549
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,480
that's like a big thing for me um so

550
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:02,480
that could really open the door

551
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um

552
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:05,760
but but again it's speculation for me

553
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,159
because we don't know yet so i'm kind of

554
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:10,240
on the fence of it all dj from this but

555
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:12,400
we'll see

556
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:13,760
yeah for sure

557
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,679
nathan i'll go ahead brother well yeah i

558
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,360
mean i i resonate with that a lot

559
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because there are so many theories and

560
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:21,440
particularly when we're in a kind of a

561
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,720
if it feels that we're in a little bit

562
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:24,240
of a valley of information you know

563
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,840
we're kind of between peaks of of

564
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:28,000
releases or whatever i think there's a

565
00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:29,919
temptation to um

566
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:31,919
to really grasp onto something it's like

567
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:33,760
yeah i've got to have something in

568
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,880
between these uh these nuggets of truth

569
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,880
that we're finding yeah and i think we

570
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,799
have to kind of resist that temptation

571
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,039
and stay grounded and and

572
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,919
remain on the fence until we know more

573
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,679
uh i was really

574
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:49,520
interested in the uh the interview that

575
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,480
max

576
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:52,480
muskovitch did with um

577
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,400
avi melon chris and lou yeah and uh i'm

578
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,320
sure you guys caught that as well what

579
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,799
was your kind of take away from uh that

580
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,400
conversation it was

581
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,799
i had a sort of mixture of feelings

582
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,720
about it having watched a lot of avi's

583
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:09,039
interviews he he kind of has the same

584
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,919
sort of

585
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:12,080
anecdotes that he likes to use and he

586
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,320
goes back to those things but uh you

587
00:23:17,430 --> 00:23:16,080
know chris we don't hear from very much

588
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,440
at all so i was really more interested

589
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,919
just hear what he had to say what his

590
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:22,000
body language had to say in that in that

591
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,679
conversation what were some of y'all's

592
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,760
takeaways from from that well yeah it

593
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,919
was just great to have those three in

594
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:30,480
like the same show so that so that was

595
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,320
like you know the main thing for me was

596
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,679
just to see them free on screen and and

597
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,760
um you know in terms of the topic it was

598
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,360
great to see those those those three

599
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:42,480
together but i'm with you on that one um

600
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,000
you know there wasn't really any new

601
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,080
information for me it was kind of stupid

602
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,159
so we already know from like the galileo

603
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,679
project we already know that melon and

604
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,039
lou were

605
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,520
in involved with that we didn't really

606
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:54,799
get to hear

607
00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:57,360
much about what what what what they'll

608
00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,200
do we've got we got to hear that they're

609
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,880
going to be kind of like advisors i

610
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:03,039
guess right and to whether you know to

611
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:05,279
where the project would which is great

612
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:06,720
um

613
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,360
but you know we it's it's you know it's

614
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,880
it's something which i mentioned before

615
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:13,360
again it's we'll just have to see how

616
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,039
how that plays out but but it is

617
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:16,960
exciting to see all these names together

618
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:18,559
and working together

619
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:20,080
um

620
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:21,520
but yeah in terms of like the body

621
00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:22,960
language and things that that's the kind

622
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,720
of survived watch as well it's not so

623
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,400
much what what they say it's what it's

624
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:28,000
what's what they don't say right at the

625
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:29,919
end of the day that's kind of

626
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:33,520
like a watch out for um but you know it

627
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:36,400
could be exciting um

628
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,720
yeah um and like and like you said about

629
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,640
uh melon it's very rare to kind of see

630
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,039
him on on on like a show so that's that

631
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:45,679
was cool as well yeah i think max was in

632
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,919
a really tough spot there because

633
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,520
you get these three power houses

634
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,039
together and then

635
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,799
your idea is to take questions and all

636
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:54,880
the questions are for avilab

637
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:56,960
and so lou is sitting there he's not

638
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,720
answering christopher didn't talk for

639
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,120
like 15 minutes in a row that's not a

640
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,640
good situation

641
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,799
uh to be in and i'm sure he's probably

642
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:06,799
thinking i wish i would have had like

643
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:09,039
10 questions of my own like three or

644
00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:09,840
four

645
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,760
or so for each person and then just go

646
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,600
around because if you're relying on the

647
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:14,720
audience and they want to hear from

648
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:17,840
avila because he's extremely um

649
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:21,679
expressive he has a lot to say uh and uh

650
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,320
and

651
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,679
basically it's his project with the

652
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:25,679
other two jumping on so that was a tough

653
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,039
position for max but you know i i you

654
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,200
know as as you would say uh fair play he

655
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,360
got he got them all on this yeah

656
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:35,200
that was great i i thought there was

657
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,320
kind of a disconnect uh in my in my mind

658
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,559
between what avi is saying about his

659
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,440
endeavor and chris and lou it's sort of

660
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:44,960
like they're on they're on opposite

661
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,360
sides of the fence in a way like uh

662
00:25:51,669 --> 00:25:49,440
chris and lou have seen some stuff

663
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,679
avi is trying to see some stuff they

664
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,120
can't really talk to each other

665
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:55,520
explicitly about what it is that they've

666
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,400
seen so the subtext that i had and maybe

667
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,760
i'm just an optimist here and i'm

668
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,600
reading too much into it was that you

669
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,200
know chris is sort of sitting there kind

670
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:05,279
of like yeah we need we need to catch up

671
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,080
to this like we need we need galileo to

672
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,720
find something that isn't the providence

673
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,960
of the us government so we can have a

674
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:14,720
because that stuff is going to be locked

675
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,279
up for a while at least it appears to be

676
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,880
so he's like waiting for everybody to

677
00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:20,480
catch up to the conversation that that

678
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:22,880
was the takeaway that i had no of course

679
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,760
yeah um and it was then it kind of leads

680
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,640
back to what to what i said before um

681
00:26:32,390 --> 00:26:30,799
you know i'm not sure because i've heard

682
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,400
uh people mention that melons

683
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,880
tentatively

684
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,559
optimistic that that's gonna go through

685
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,000
so that kind of means that he's still a

686
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:40,000
bit unlike the fence so that would make

687
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:41,360
sense for what what he's saying there

688
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,039
that he's kind of got he's kind of

689
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,880
putting his eggs into the basket of like

690
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,120
the galileo project to find some new

691
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,520
information because like you said there

692
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:51,120
um you know

693
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:53,200
even if this amendment does go go

694
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:55,520
through you know what information will

695
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:57,279
will like we actually get

696
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,799
get get to see at the end of the day i'm

697
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,520
not even sure well i i want to talk to

698
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,760
with artemis about this i

699
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,679
i think that i don't know if you agree

700
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,200
with me or not i don't miss i think this

701
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,000
is largely a symbolic gesture between

702
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,320
all these parties because uh

703
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,080
at the end of the day we're looking

704
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:17,039
through telescopes right that are

705
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,880
apparently they're going to be in an ir

706
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:21,679
spectrum that is most favorable to

707
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,399
capturing the phenomenon but the

708
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,360
military already has these so

709
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,440
i i don't know that they're going to get

710
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:31,760
something that's going to make us go

711
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,159
you know because it's a telescope it's

712
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,960
not a wide angle covering the entirety

713
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,720
of the sky and i mean if you guys heard

714
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,320
that interview with john ramirez

715
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,880
particularly with andy he said

716
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,360
okay we can't we're never going to end i

717
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:47,039
think

718
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,480
nathan and i spoke about this when we

719
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,919
talked to chris lato you're never

720
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:51,760
getting that data that they have and i

721
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,279
told you that you're not getting that

722
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,799
that classified data that you can get

723
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,720
out of those satellites uh and john

724
00:28:01,990 --> 00:27:59,520
ramirez said that and so that's what you

725
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,000
really want but the telescope to me

726
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,640
artemis i feel like this is a symbolic

727
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,720
partnership but i don't think they're

728
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:09,039
going to produce anything that's uh

729
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,880
going to make people go oh my god

730
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:12,559
because we already know the phenomenon's

731
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,399
out there do you see something different

732
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,880
than what i see maybe you do

733
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,760
um

734
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,399
well it might not be that different but

735
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:21,840
maybe the fact that it's going to be

736
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,399
public and not classified so whatever

737
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,399
they're finding they're

738
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,559
sharing it with us and

739
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,799
so that might catch on more than

740
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,039
whatever is going on behind the scenes

741
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,880
with the government because

742
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:36,960
we're starting a movement of our own

743
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,440
publicly and they're already involving

744
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,240
more universities so if that keeps going

745
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,480
and they get you know universities all

746
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,799
over the states and then maybe canada

747
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:49,279
and then you know expanded even more

748
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,520
around the world like it

749
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:53,760
you know i don't know where they plan to

750
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,240
take it in the next like let's say 10

751
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,640
to 20 years but like i don't know if

752
00:29:02,310 --> 00:29:00,720
they're looking that far ahead but

753
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,320
they can

754
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,840
maybe it's just because they have that

755
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,840
much more opportunity to

756
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,440
get that message out

757
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,600
and like get these pictures out and if

758
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:10,960
they do capture things it's not going to

759
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,440
be classified so

760
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,880
it's all about the funding as well it's

761
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,480
all about the funding it depends on how

762
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,559
much funding they get you know i know

763
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:20,320
they've opened it up to public uh

764
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,360
funding i think on the interview um abby

765
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:26,240
loeb mentioned the race to the mid 2

766
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:28,880
million i think it was he said um which

767
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,559
isn't enough it's nowhere near enough

768
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,559
it's like it's like change really for

769
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,399
the stuff they need to do so two percent

770
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,799
of what he wants yeah so it's just so

771
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,320
there's a long way to go with it you

772
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,399
know there's a long way to go i think

773
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,480
and i want to get akashi in here to ask

774
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,880
the next question but i think what

775
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,799
stimulates people are two things there's

776
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,240
only two things that people really want

777
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,320
to see you'll hear people scream about

778
00:29:53,669 --> 00:29:52,320
data like for a week

779
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,679
and then you realize that if you're

780
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,279
receiving raw data you don't even know

781
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:57,360
how to analyze that data what you do

782
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,360
know how to analyze is if you're seeing

783
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,919
something that is either an image or a

784
00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:03,039
video

785
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:05,440
and in the absence of that i think

786
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,559
whatever they produced in in in with

787
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,880
these sensors if they're able to capture

788
00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:13,679
even data with ai that says oh that is

789
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:17,679
anomalous that 100 is an anomalous but

790
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:20,480
we don't have a clear image of what that

791
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,240
is i don't think people are going to be

792
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:24,720
compelled by that but again i think

793
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,120
symbolically speaking when you have a

794
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:29,760
gs15 from the pentagon and then

795
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,279
christopher mellon i think he's on he

796
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:33,039
was on like a different scale as an

797
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,799
undersecretary i don't even know what

798
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,960
those guys are making

799
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,320
as a us

800
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:40,880
di but um

801
00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,039
but the symbology of those two

802
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,440
partnering with this scientist

803
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:48,000
makes the government have to say oh lou

804
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:49,520
and chris are putting pressure on us

805
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,480
again

806
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,159
if they're not in san marino putting

807
00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:54,080
pressure on us then they're partnering

808
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:55,360
with this harvard guy and they're

809
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,240
putting pressure on us and that to me is

810
00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:59,519
significant

811
00:31:01,269 --> 00:31:00,320
so

812
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:01,279
uh

813
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,720
oh akashi chris associate producer

814
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,039
what's up everything well

815
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:09,200
i actually have a comment because i keep

816
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:13,840
i'm obsessed with um that um

817
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,559
that interview that uh we did with uh

818
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,799
christina gomez right

819
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,039
this like three weeks ago whatever when

820
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,760
he kept saying that all you needed and i

821
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,000
keep honing in on that all you need is

822
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:28,880
one pointing at the right place

823
00:31:34,950 --> 00:31:32,399
so is that one the web telescope

824
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,960
and where is the web telescope

825
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,200
supposed to be pointing initially

826
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:39,279
because he specifically said those two

827
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,000
pieces all you need is one

828
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,159
pointing at the right place so that

829
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,399
would mean to me and um this is just a

830
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,880
costume chris talking yeah

831
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,600
yeah but i i just started reading into

832
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,919
it i mean we all do it's just you know

833
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,600
the nature of the beast we want to read

834
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,279
more into it and try to put the puzzle

835
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,360
together but those two things and

836
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:01,919
remember he always says he leaves bread

837
00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:04,960
crumbs he used to and he stopped so i'm

838
00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:07,039
like all that i'm going back and trying

839
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,960
to find those bread crumbs along the way

840
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,880
it's actually good because it's high in

841
00:32:15,269 --> 00:32:13,279
carbohydrates josh right

842
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,279
and plus the beatles said all you need

843
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:17,519
is love so what's more significant about

844
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,070
obviously my beetle right now but oh

845
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:30,640
he's the that's pete best he's the he's

846
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:31,360
the

847
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:40,470
but i do want to hear from yeah i do

848
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,480
have a question um for for josh only

849
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:46,559
because you're you know you're in the uk

850
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:48,559
and i think you were talking about the

851
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:49,919
fact that

852
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,840
it's incredible to me when you say that

853
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:53,440
it's like we're so far ahead of the

854
00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,789
and i talked to you know talk to my

855
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,399
friends all the time and my friends that

856
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,799
don't you want to know that this is a

857
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:05,039
thing they have no interest so i was

858
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,559
just wondering what challenges you're

859
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,559
bumping into over there you know is it

860
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,559
more skeptical you know at a public

861
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,559
level or is it just more skeptical and

862
00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:14,960
more controlled at a government so just

863
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,640
a little bit of insight would be great

864
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:18,559
sure yeah and well in terms of that

865
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,720
there isn't even a there isn't even

866
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,720
this it's just like a blank page like

867
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:25,039
there's just nothing at all um you don't

868
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,320
see it in any

869
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,159
media you don't see in any news channels

870
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,320
you see it in the odd paper um here and

871
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,399
there i know that vinnie a disclosure

872
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:35,440
team i know he's working with uap media

873
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:36,640
uk

874
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,720
um they've actually got a pretty good

875
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,039
relationship with the newspaper the sun

876
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:42,960
and so if like you've noticed over the

877
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:44,320
past few weeks they've actually brought

878
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,279
out a couple of articles in the sun

879
00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:48,960
so that's kind of like a good a good

880
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:50,080
change but

881
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,159
you know and but at the end of the day

882
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,320
it's no dis disrespect to the sun but

883
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,840
that's like a tabloid um newspaper so

884
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,760
like the average person in like the uk

885
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,279
if they pick up that paper they're not

886
00:34:04,149 --> 00:34:02,799
going to take it seriously at all you

887
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,159
know it's like in terms of the

888
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,080
information in in like the article

889
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,720
that's great but you know when someone's

890
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,399
when someone go goes into a shop or

891
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,079
walks to like the news agents to pick up

892
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,240
a newspaper you know

893
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:16,079
and they pick up the sun and see a pic

894
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,760
and see a story about a ufo in there

895
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,960
we're not going to take it seriously

896
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:20,639
even if the information is correct if

897
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,440
that makes sense and yeah we need to see

898
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,839
this talked about in like a more

899
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:27,520
not not in a more serious way but we

900
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:29,599
need to get this information into

901
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,079
kind of like the in terms of the papers

902
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,560
like the telegraph or or like the

903
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,480
guardian those are like the serious ones

904
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:39,200
here and so to see it talked about there

905
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:41,839
that would be really interesting um that

906
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:43,919
actually happened when like the new when

907
00:34:49,109 --> 00:34:47,440
the ufo report came out in in june

908
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,119
there was a brief period about a week

909
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:51,760
where we kind of got to see

910
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,960
um some stories in in in those papers

911
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,800
and it was briefly talked about in like

912
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:58,240
the house of lords

913
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,960
um

914
00:35:01,430 --> 00:35:00,160
which is the first time it's ever

915
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,440
happened to

916
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,440
you know and that i think you know it's

917
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,599
on twitter somewhere think of the signal

918
00:35:09,030 --> 00:35:07,440
he uh posted about it so if you go

919
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,040
through his tweets he'll it'll still be

920
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,000
there um but just to see that topic

921
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,880
discussed in the house of lords was was

922
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,400
crazy to see

923
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:18,960
um but since then it's kind of just went

924
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:21,599
completely quiet you know um

925
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:24,079
but speaking to vinnie um you know

926
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,440
because like we text each other and

927
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,720
stuff he's

928
00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:29,680
he's um he's very hopeful that you know

929
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,599
if this amendment does go through that's

930
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,839
going to put a lot of pressure on the uk

931
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,000
to kind of follow suit and they'll have

932
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,240
to say you know we'll have to address it

933
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:41,760
in in in some way you know um so we're

934
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:44,160
hoping that that will happen going

935
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:45,520
forward but you know again it's just a

936
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:48,079
waiting game akashi so we'll see i want

937
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,040
it

938
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:51,200
go ahead my dear go ahead no no no you

939
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,800
go i was going to say that um i i sort

940
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,359
of posed this with i think with andy on

941
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,520
on text message that i think it would be

942
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:01,520
really cool if there was like a regional

943
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,480
person in each area of of the uk like if

944
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,720
you have like northumberland a person

945
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:08,800
and then you had someone in the midlands

946
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,440
and then someone out in wales like dan

947
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,000
and somebody in the south like stevie

948
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,960
keith not hi stevie keith anyway but but

949
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,400
what i'm getting at though is if you had

950
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:20,800
these regional people that you could

951
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:23,599
organize uh and have meetings so if you

952
00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:24,960
have these meetings and then you just

953
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:26,640
kind of build out those meetings from

954
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,520
there

955
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:29,839
because of the size of the uk makes that

956
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,000
easier than for artemis i mean it's like

957
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,400
for her to go across the the span of

958
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,720
canada is pretty

959
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:38,400
you know it's a pretty good trek but i i

960
00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,000
still think you should do it but i don't

961
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:41,520
know those are my thoughts more like

962
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,440
ontario or like going downtown toronto

963
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,119
do you have an idea like that like have

964
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,280
you thought about that artemis to do

965
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:52,079
regional uh meetups for the purposes of

966
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,280
motivating

967
00:36:58,230 --> 00:36:55,839
yeah me and josh have talked about it

968
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,240
once he's back here like we've got

969
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,079
loads of plans

970
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,720
and like people we're gonna enlist and

971
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:04,880
like all around here that we want to

972
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,800
speak with and

973
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,720
we're gonna be doing stuff with video

974
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:10,320
girl kelly

975
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:11,119
yeah

976
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:14,480
hey kelly dodge put your hands together

977
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:17,680
for kelly lee dodge

978
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:19,920
what's up kelly lee

979
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:24,560
yeah we miss her so yeah we're gonna um

980
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:26,560
we have plans like to do stuff with her

981
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,760
too so

982
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:29,680
you know i think it's about building

983
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,599
that community that we talk about that's

984
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:33,520
virtual like i mean it's great virtual

985
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,040
of course

986
00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:37,839
and it connects us you know um around

987
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,000
the globe but

988
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:42,400
you know in person about that connection

989
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:43,839
in person and

990
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,880
um to also just like when kelly came

991
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,440
over it was one other person with josh

992
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:50,560
and i and

993
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:51,599
but

994
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,000
having that conversation just openly

995
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,640
with the people in the room and like

996
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:00,000
it being like engaging and like just

997
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:01,920
like hey did you see that report though

998
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:03,760
oh but did you see that youtube live or

999
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:04,480
like

1000
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:09,839
you're just around your own people you

1001
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,720
know and so yeah it's the start it's the

1002
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,640
start it got to start somewhere that's

1003
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:15,599
the start

1004
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:18,079
that we were like this this definitely

1005
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:20,720
needs to happen in person like on a

1006
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,800
grander scale and like we need to make a

1007
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:24,960
bigger impact like

1008
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,920
we need to make it like do like a live

1009
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,520
stream for like a whole week or

1010
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:30,960
something and like

1011
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,200
advocating on the topic and like doing

1012
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,720
things and creating a goal and like um

1013
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,119
i don't know like just just making a

1014
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,280
bigger impact on a bigger scale it's

1015
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,400
more work but at the same time

1016
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,400
you're creating that community that's

1017
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:48,079
not just like

1018
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,960
um

1019
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,560
you know you're not just getting like a

1020
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,880
quick like like or share or whatever

1021
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:55,440
right it's a real conversation

1022
00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:58,720
you're you're building a foundation

1023
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,000
you're making like a lasting change and

1024
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,640
also like people love that and people

1025
00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:06,640
need that like that connection that

1026
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,160
feeling that they're not alone in this

1027
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,720
that um experiences could come out with

1028
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,640
this or um

1029
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:15,119
even just broadening um

1030
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,160
your own

1031
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,079
like perception of the topic kind of

1032
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,000
taking out that tunnel vision and

1033
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:21,440
speaking with other people who have

1034
00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:24,480
different um takes on the topic if

1035
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,800
they're more nuts and bolts or woo-woo

1036
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,560
whatever you want to call it like

1037
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,960
bringing these people together and

1038
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,560
just broadening the

1039
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,560
everybody's perspective and

1040
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,800
um feeding off each other's energy like

1041
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,040
that's what it's all about artemis if

1042
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,040
you if you have if you have a meeting

1043
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,440
and you josh and kelly have a meeting

1044
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,920
and five people show up the next time

1045
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:48,320
you meet you're going to have 10.

1046
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:49,280
it's just

1047
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:50,320
i mean

1048
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:51,599
and then for you i'm just going to say

1049
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:54,079
for josh for you you have a meeting and

1050
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:57,520
you get 10 people to write into your mp

1051
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:59,680
that means something it does yeah i mean

1052
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,320
to have like i think it was um ross

1053
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,240
coulthard i think he made a great point

1054
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,160
saying it's always better to hand write

1055
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:08,240
something because it's gonna it's gonna

1056
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,040
get

1057
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,440
noticed and highlighted a lot more so

1058
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,520
um instead of like doing a tweet for

1059
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,359
example you know

1060
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,040
yes grant

1061
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:19,040
grant says the big phone home uk edition

1062
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:20,960
that's right uk edition is a great idea

1063
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,040
it's a great idea um

1064
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:24,960
but yeah in terms of that in terms of

1065
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,880
contacting mps it's always better to do

1066
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,640
it with like a letter and not a tweet

1067
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,560
for example because it's gonna get paid

1068
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:32,480
like attention a lot more if like you do

1069
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,240
that it's shown that someone's actually

1070
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,720
taken the time to write that letter and

1071
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,880
go down and post it it's got like a

1072
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,920
powerful

1073
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:42,240
like the message behind it is a lot

1074
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,520
there's a lot more if that makes sense

1075
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,280
you know hey hey josh can you do me a

1076
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,920
favor um when i hear the name ross

1077
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,119
cultart

1078
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:51,599
so so uh and nathan knows what's about

1079
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,950
i envisioned the fourth the voice of

1080
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,079
sean bean

1081
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:01,119
in um in in in uh what's that that movie

1082
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,079
uh national treasure after all yeah and

1083
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,640
i envisioned sean bean saying ross

1084
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,000
kilzart

1085
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,400
if you either you are the helper steal

1086
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:12,880
the declaration and we'll send you back

1087
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:15,680
to australia in the body bag

1088
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,200
so but i feel like you would do that a

1089
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,160
lot better can you be sean bean can you

1090
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:22,720
channel your inner sean bean for this

1091
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:23,520
show

1092
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:26,319
i'm crap of accents i'm really happy

1093
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:27,680
you can't all you got to do is lower

1094
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:29,520
your voice it's sean bean

1095
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:32,160
he has never raised his voice in a movie

1096
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,309
yeah i mean h you know it's it's a

1097
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,240
process man it's a process it's like

1098
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,480
disclosure

1099
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,960
yeah you did it yeah you did it yourself

1100
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,800
uh yeah well i wanted to get y'all's

1101
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,640
thoughts on um

1102
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,040
the issue of the of kind of the the

1103
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,520
truth with a capital t you know so

1104
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:57,520
um and i don't necessarily want to go

1105
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:59,280
down our speculative paths here but i

1106
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:00,839
want to talk a little bit

1107
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,760
about where does it need to come from

1108
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:06,240
you know so i'm thinking back to

1109
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:09,760
lou's uh talk with vinnie in fact uh

1110
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:12,640
about the five pillars um vincenzo yeah

1111
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:14,640
the five pillars presentation they did

1112
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,760
and when you when you look at that

1113
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:18,079
presentation you realize how important

1114
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,839
the coordinated effort really is and

1115
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,000
it's it's all these different pathways

1116
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:24,800
and avenues of engagement uh

1117
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,359
and and kind of they have to as he talks

1118
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:28,960
about it they have to sort of happen in

1119
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,720
parallel so there's not necessarily um

1120
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:35,839
maybe one group one pillar that has the

1121
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:39,200
uh the monopoly on this story

1122
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,000
but

1123
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,000
i would argue that maybe a couple of

1124
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,520
them are more important than the others

1125
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,760
and it speaks to sort of our role in the

1126
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,000
ufo twitter community the role of the

1127
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,480
media at large the role of governments

1128
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,400
the role of experiencers and all of

1129
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,640
these are sort of mouthpieces for

1130
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:56,880
whatever this happens to be in your

1131
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,599
minds what is it that will be the most

1132
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,960
significant

1133
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,960
uh sort of

1134
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,599
turning point or or voice that will

1135
00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:07,119
think of it as a conductor at an

1136
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,720
orchestra you know when that when that

1137
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,440
when that conductor is up there we're

1138
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,280
all going to start kind of playing along

1139
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,599
in the same tune or more likely playing

1140
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:17,040
along the same tune who would be who

1141
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:19,440
would be that person in in those groups

1142
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:20,880
that liz talked about

1143
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:27,990
i must want to go first though

1144
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:29,510
i mean i mean basically

1145
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,800
i'll give you my answer i think it has

1146
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:33,119
to be the government personally um but i

1147
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,480
don't know and

1148
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,720
there are a lot of clear gun

1149
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,400
i think um

1150
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,480
i think for the general public to accept

1151
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,400
it it would have to be the government

1152
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,480
for sure um you know for like the

1153
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:46,079
average person who's kind of not really

1154
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,520
involved with this

1155
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,560
um

1156
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,640
they need an official right yeah you

1157
00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:52,880
need someone official to kind of come

1158
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:53,760
out

1159
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:57,200
on board in terms of the general public

1160
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,800
but um i was watching um

1161
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,960
the show with artemis you would well i

1162
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:04,720
saw a tiny bit but you were they and i

1163
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,359
had um the one one time i was abducted

1164
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,960
who run there the girls are in the chat

1165
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:13,200
now i think and they made a great point

1166
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,240
because um you know a disclosure is kind

1167
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,960
of up to each person it's it's what you

1168
00:44:21,910 --> 00:44:20,400
would want it to be

1169
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:21,920
you know so for like like the

1170
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:24,000
experiences for example

1171
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:25,599
like they have they've already had that

1172
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,200
experience they already know that this

1173
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,520
is real so they don't need like the

1174
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,520
validation from like the government or

1175
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,599
some official to come out and say but

1176
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,240
this is real they they already know that

1177
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,240
right and that's such a huge part of

1178
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,160
this topic what people kind of forget as

1179
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,560
well you know this this uh side of these

1180
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:45,200
people who who've had these experiences

1181
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,960
and like like i haven't had one myself

1182
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,440
but i can i can really relate to them

1183
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,680
and their kind of take on this topic you

1184
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,960
know to

1185
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:54,000
to have

1186
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:55,040
you know

1187
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:57,280
to have all these government people talk

1188
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:58,400
about this it must be kind of

1189
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,359
frustrating for them um in a way because

1190
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,880
these guys already know it's real

1191
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,520
they've like experienced something um

1192
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:07,280
you know survey they've already kind of

1193
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,440
had their moment if that makes sense you

1194
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,960
know um

1195
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:12,880
but in terms of the general public it

1196
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,839
would need some sort of official to come

1197
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:17,599
out and say

1198
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:20,079
that this is real you know and and and

1199
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,520
even then it's happened you know and

1200
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:23,040
this is what people forget like the

1201
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,400
pentagon have already come out and said

1202
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,960
that ufos are real so so in a way

1203
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:28,640
they've kind of done it you know there's

1204
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,480
not a lot more that they need to say

1205
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,640
they've already needed to all

1206
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,480
they've already said all they need to

1207
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,880
say in terms of the ufo topic that makes

1208
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,800
sense so this is why i'm kind of

1209
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:41,200
cautious um going forward as to what

1210
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:42,880
we're actually going to get get to see

1211
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,069
even if the government i'm sorry even if

1212
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:50,400
the government comes out will they

1213
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:51,839
believe it

1214
00:45:57,030 --> 00:45:54,480
yeah yeah i mean at this point we've

1215
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,040
seen crazier things right it's like will

1216
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:59,280
they really believe that you know yeah i

1217
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,000
mean in in the terms of covid i mean

1218
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,000
look at look look at that huge divider

1219
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,160
of covert i mean some some people don't

1220
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:08,000
don't believe as a virus some some

1221
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,520
people don't think it's that serious and

1222
00:46:13,829 --> 00:46:11,920
other people are very much on board and

1223
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,839
they'll wear the full protective gear

1224
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,160
and the face masks and you know have ten

1225
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,400
jobs or whatever right yeah

1226
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,640
you know so it's um there's like a mixed

1227
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,319
bag when it comes to the government and

1228
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:25,200
how people actually see the government

1229
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,000
um and what they're actually saying so

1230
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:31,440
well based on history of misinformation

1231
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:34,880
on the ufo topic how are they gonna say

1232
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:38,079
that this one's real but that wasn't

1233
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,800
yeah

1234
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,240
i want to address this so from two

1235
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,800
angles one angle i spoke with max the

1236
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,319
other night from the uk

1237
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,480
and max had an amazing experience it was

1238
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,040
on a uh a spaces with this young lady

1239
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:51,520
named angel and i think some of you will

1240
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,000
will meet angel will know about angel

1241
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,000
because people seem to connect with her

1242
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,560
her voice on there and this max uh was

1243
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,359
such a gentleman and had an incredibly

1244
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,760
compelling story like blew me away kind

1245
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,319
of story and i said to him at the end he

1246
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:09,040
was ready to go to israel and track down

1247
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,040
a couple who had filmed a uap experience

1248
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:16,720
that looked like a a oblong cylindrical

1249
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,599
um vertical object that came over his

1250
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:21,440
house that was like the size of a school

1251
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:25,040
bus and and this the the um

1252
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:26,960
let's say the characteristics of of the

1253
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,640
flight characteristics of this

1254
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,800
particular object looked like what he

1255
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,720
saw and he said i want to go get them to

1256
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:34,480
back me up and i said you know something

1257
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:36,559
and i don't curse a lot on air uh nathan

1258
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,240
could tell you that and at the end i

1259
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:40,400
said max repeat after me i don't have to

1260
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:42,640
prove [\h__\h] to anybody

1261
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,800
if somebody says i want scientific proof

1262
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,400
or kick rocks

1263
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:52,720
[\h__\h] kick rocks i don't give a [\h__\h]

1264
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,240
whether you believe it or not i don't

1265
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,079
give a [\h__\h] whether mixed west believes

1266
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,240
it or not so you don't we don't have to

1267
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,119
prove anything to anybody you only have

1268
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:03,760
to prove it to you is the only person

1269
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,480
you have to satisfy unfortunately the

1270
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,559
government is a de facto authority on

1271
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,960
this and people are going to because

1272
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,800
when the world exploded when they

1273
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:14,880
released these three videos and now we

1274
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,760
have 50 youtube channels including this

1275
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,359
one that wouldn't exist were weren't not

1276
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,440
for those three videos that's a fact

1277
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:24,079
that's not a guesswork and lou elizon

1278
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:25,680
doing those guys we're all part of that

1279
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,440
but that doesn't mean they own the

1280
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,280
entirety of the narrative because people

1281
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:32,160
like max people like yourselves even

1282
00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,800
people like nathan

1283
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:36,880
he's like money in the bank um that's

1284
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,680
why i call him money nft nathan man put

1285
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:41,680
it in the bank baby because when he

1286
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:44,400
talking people listening and akashi

1287
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:48,470
so

1288
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,839
were having slices of pizza josh

1289
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,599
i would say that's the big one that had

1290
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,440
the most meatballs on it

1291
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:59,280
and like you left me the sliver so i'm

1292
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:00,240
just kidding

1293
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:02,319
i mean it's weird like artemis come on

1294
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,720
pizza come on artemis

1295
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,480
meatballs

1296
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,559
okay who does that we could do without

1297
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:11,119
that canadian bacon is that better

1298
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:12,079
okay

1299
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:25,430
bring that flare up in this joint

1300
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:46,069
akashi is a baby yoda for grant then

1301
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:48,960
then maybe flair is her baby baby yoda

1302
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,200
maybe yeah

1303
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,680
i don't know

1304
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,440
i know he's there but he's not quite

1305
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,079
there he'll be back so when he pops back

1306
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,440
up we'll just squeeze him in i don't

1307
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:01,040
know what else

1308
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,480
i think we you know we're kind of

1309
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:04,240
talking about an important aspect of

1310
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,680
this though that

1311
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,599
you know it kind of

1312
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:09,520
the the disclosure of the information is

1313
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,240
somewhat proportionate to the uh the way

1314
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,680
in which the phenomenon's really going

1315
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,240
to engage with the world on a larger

1316
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:18,079
scale you know so if the phenomenon's

1317
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:19,359
going to continue just sort of showing

1318
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,559
up for the navy

1319
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:22,880
and causing experiencers to have you

1320
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,040
know the things that they have

1321
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,079
i i worry that

1322
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,640
a disclosed i use the word sorry but a

1323
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,240
truth from the government

1324
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,760
you know what how much weight it will

1325
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,079
carry if when if the average person in

1326
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,920
the world is not really directly

1327
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,480
affected by this in some form or fashion

1328
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:42,559
you know so it's one because a lot of i

1329
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:43,280
mean

1330
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,800
let's be honest a lot of folks in the

1331
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,800
world believe in some pretty you know

1332
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:48,559
fantastical things i mean most of the

1333
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,040
world's religions have some aspects of

1334
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,040
the phenomenon represented in them

1335
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:54,800
already it's just that we've normalized

1336
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:56,960
them and called them religion and it's

1337
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:59,680
become more acceptable so you know in my

1338
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,559
mind

1339
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:03,119
there will come a time where

1340
00:51:06,549 --> 00:51:04,880
the government or whoever is going to

1341
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,559
sort of try to rally

1342
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,079
folks together may we're seeing this

1343
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,160
with the astro with the with if we get

1344
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,079
this bill passed with the the creation

1345
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:13,920
of astro the anomaly

1346
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,599
uh surveillance tracking resolution

1347
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,880
office which i had to look up just in

1348
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:18,160
just a second

1349
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:20,000
um but i see that as kind of like the

1350
00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:22,319
central node with a lot of the these

1351
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,400
players so if you if you really wanted

1352
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,160
to get this uh

1353
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,079
accepted on a wider scale what you would

1354
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,240
try to do is kind of create that body

1355
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:31,599
where you're bringing in people from

1356
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,280
galilee you're bringing them skeptics

1357
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,440
like michael shermer uh you're bringing

1358
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:38,000
in you know all of these different uh

1359
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,839
personalities

1360
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:41,760
and you're going to i would hope kind of

1361
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,839
expose them together

1362
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,559
as a group some of these findings then

1363
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,800
those people who have their own tribes

1364
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:50,640
of people who follow them

1365
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,880
that that will be listened to you know

1366
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:54,880
if you can convince michael shermer you

1367
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,319
know you're more likely to convince a

1368
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:58,319
mick west and yada yada and down the

1369
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,520
line

1370
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:00,800
we're going to need that kind of

1371
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:03,280
coalition if you will if we're going to

1372
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,319
all arrive at the same place but it's

1373
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:07,839
going to be weird if we get there and

1374
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,520
the phenomenon is not actually waiting

1375
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:10,880
for us you know i'm saying it's like

1376
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,480
well we know that you're real but hey

1377
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:15,119
how do we actually interact with this i

1378
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,359
mean here's like a hypothetical quest

1379
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,839
question for you guys um

1380
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:22,079
what if it turns out that louis lozando

1381
00:52:26,309 --> 00:52:23,760
isn't who he says he is i mean how would

1382
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,319
you guys react to that it can't because

1383
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:28,079
he's already been checked out but i've

1384
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:29,920
already i've already talked somebody in

1385
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:32,079
government who's who's checked him out

1386
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:33,680
and has talked to him

1387
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:36,000
right so he is who he says he is barely

1388
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,599
that part but like

1389
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,200
that he's hiding something or that

1390
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:41,200
something about him is like he's

1391
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:42,800
definitely hiding something he's trying

1392
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:44,319
to keep himself out of jail because

1393
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,680
that's like the narrative that's like

1394
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,520
the other side of this story what a lot

1395
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,480
of people look at as well you know um

1396
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:52,000
you know

1397
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,079
about like the government and things and

1398
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,400
um you know the

1399
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,720
the mistrue is what we've been fed for

1400
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,960
for 80 years 100

1401
00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:03,119
100 percent it's difficult for people to

1402
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,319
kind of make

1403
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,559
make that leap

1404
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:08,720
josh you have to though we're living in

1405
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,200
shades of gray if everybody from the

1406
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,520
government is a liar and they're bad and

1407
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,079
everybody who's on ufo twitter who's a

1408
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:18,240
conspiracy theorist is good then what is

1409
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:25,910
right but but let's look at what's

1410
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,480
what's de facto in that he gave up his

1411
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,400
job so therefore his 20-year

1412
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,920
retirement's gone

1413
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:32,800
okay

1414
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:35,040
then uh so he's got if he gets a

1415
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,280
retirement it's going to be a

1416
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,280
far reduced from what he the percentage

1417
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,000
he would have gotten at 20 years as a gs

1418
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:44,960
15 at step 10. so he'd still be employed

1419
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,040
right now actually banking uh adding to

1420
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:49,680
his percentage so he's done all that

1421
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:51,680
he's went out in the wilderness he's

1422
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:54,559
filed two ig investigations against the

1423
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,800
people he worked for yeah for sure yeah

1424
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,720
and hired a lawyer so do you and people

1425
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,079
like hey i wonder if lou is ever going

1426
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:01,920
to work in the pentagon again i was like

1427
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:03,920
i can answer that no he's not he'd be

1428
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:06,079
the last person that a contracting

1429
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:08,960
officer would hire uh to be a contractor

1430
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:11,040
or a gs employee back at the pentagon

1431
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,160
right so

1432
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,880
so hold on a second so we have we have

1433
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:15,920
all that

1434
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,119
and the guy has gone overseas he's moved

1435
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:21,520
these senators he's he and christopher

1436
00:54:25,589 --> 00:54:24,000
millen got the videos released they this

1437
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:25,599
bill would not be happening right now

1438
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,680
without them the house resolution

1439
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:29,520
wouldn't happen nor with the senate so

1440
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:32,319
it's a there's no question you can say i

1441
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,000
don't like him i don't trust him i'm

1442
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:36,000
never going to believe him you could say

1443
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,760
anything bad about him you want but you

1444
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,599
can't say he hasn't done anything

1445
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:41,920
because that's just not a fact no in

1446
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,079
terms of louis lozando i mean you know

1447
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,920
i'm skeptical of every single person in

1448
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:47,760
this topic because they're sure what's

1449
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:48,640
happened

1450
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,799
including lou you know

1451
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,280
i'll question everybody

1452
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:55,680
we had we had a discussion with uh

1453
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:56,720
daniel's

1454
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:59,200
uh stubbings who was like um he's like a

1455
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,640
mental health uh

1456
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,760
doctor

1457
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:03,200
on our show that was like a couple of

1458
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:04,400
weeks ago but

1459
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:06,960
he made the point on on there from what

1460
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:08,960
he's observed from what he's observed

1461
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,119
he's like who's actually come up with

1462
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:13,520
this decision to bring this information

1463
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:16,000
out in this way right like who's

1464
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,119
actually

1465
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,960
why have they got that power to bring

1466
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:21,440
this information out in this way like

1467
00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:22,960
i'm i'm not trying to say that lose a

1468
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,359
liar well let's say that why is it being

1469
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,520
brought out in this way if that makes

1470
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,720
sense well right i mean let's take a

1471
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,880
step back let's go back to the days of

1472
00:55:33,990 --> 00:55:32,319
tom delong let's listen to what tom

1473
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,000
actually said he said that he had spoken

1474
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:37,040
with advisors who basically had had

1475
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:39,920
organized a team to help him push this

1476
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,160
information out now who was on that team

1477
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,040
oh chris mellon oh lou elizondo so you

1478
00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,880
can't tell me that chris and lou just

1479
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,400
all of a sudden like rolled out of bed

1480
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,760
one day and we're like you know i'm just

1481
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,799
gonna do this

1482
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,400
we're just gonna go for it i think that

1483
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:54,000
they have their own convictions i think

1484
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,200
that they

1485
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:57,760
are are men of of conviction they serve

1486
00:56:01,270 --> 00:56:00,079
their country honorably and they are

1487
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,280
trying to do what in their minds what

1488
00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,839
they think is best but i do think if and

1489
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:05,520
i'm just saying if you just listen to

1490
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:07,040
what they're telling us

1491
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:08,079
you know if you listen to what they're

1492
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,440
telling us and you read a little bit

1493
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,160
between the lines there there is a clear

1494
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:13,839
coordinated effort

1495
00:56:17,190 --> 00:56:15,520
lou is just on the front end of this

1496
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:17,200
chris is on the front end of this but

1497
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:18,559
and he says that he says that all the

1498
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,480
time and just recently said you know

1499
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:22,000
there's all these people that i you know

1500
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,760
hopefully their names will come out you

1501
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:26,079
know soon who are big names people that

1502
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:28,000
that you know of so these are this is a

1503
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,000
group of folks who are trying to push

1504
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,799
this in a specific direction and i think

1505
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,440
that for lou's sake he he actually wants

1506
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,960
you know the more people he can bring

1507
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:38,720
into this conversation the more relieved

1508
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:40,880
he becomes because then it takes some of

1509
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,440
this risk that you're illustrating josh

1510
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,839
about you know what happens if um

1511
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,119
you know people don't believe him or

1512
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:49,119
whatever it actually mitigates that risk

1513
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:51,359
when more people have exposure to what

1514
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,640
what is really happening of course yeah

1515
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,319
and what does anyone remember what the

1516
00:57:02,470 --> 00:56:58,880
seminal moment was for lou when he just

1517
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,789
the the seminal moment was when he said

1518
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:06,720
i want to breathe the sex death which

1519
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,119
was james mattis and he was told by his

1520
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,520
boss you will not brief the sect def

1521
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:13,520
because we want sectif to have plausible

1522
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:15,440
deniability on this issue in case

1523
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,920
somebody asked him about it and when he

1524
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,359
said if you're not gonna let me brief

1525
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:21,440
the boss i'm out of here and remember

1526
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:23,760
who his resignation letter went to the

1527
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,480
sec deaf yeah which was james mattis so

1528
00:57:30,870 --> 00:57:28,400
he said okay if you're not going to tell

1529
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,880
them anything and we're over classifying

1530
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,880
everything which they are

1531
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,480
um then

1532
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:35,920
i don't need to be involved in this

1533
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,240
because we're keeping too much from the

1534
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,079
american people and i'm not down with

1535
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,720
that and that takes an amount of courage

1536
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:45,040
that this person here doesn't have if i

1537
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,880
would have been in his position i would

1538
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,640
not have done what he did i wouldn't

1539
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,440
have given up my career and my uh

1540
00:57:56,309 --> 00:57:54,160
in in uh and make when i take care of my

1541
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:56,319
family that guy i have no kids i got

1542
00:58:00,230 --> 00:57:58,079
five pets running around the house this

1543
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,240
guy had two kids going to college and

1544
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:02,480
did that that's conviction so when you

1545
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:03,280
say

1546
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,040
what makes when someone goes i don't

1547
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:07,680
trust that guy what has he done well i

1548
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:09,599
can just start naming things off and and

1549
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:11,119
you're just gonna

1550
00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:12,880
i mean you don't have to like the guy

1551
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,400
you could say i think he's a liar i

1552
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,240
don't believe him i don't like him but

1553
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:18,319
you can't say he hasn't done anything

1554
00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:20,240
sure in terms of my opinion on lou i'm

1555
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,079
on the fence of him i don't have a i'm

1556
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:24,480
not there or here you know i'm just on

1557
00:58:27,349 --> 00:58:25,760
the fence like that's your choice

1558
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,359
because i don't know what goes on behind

1559
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:28,880
the scenes i don't have a clue you know

1560
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,280
so yeah i can only go on what he's told

1561
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:33,200
us you know and um

1562
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,799
you know and what and what i hope will

1563
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,480
happen like i hope this amendment will

1564
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:39,119
will go through i hope everything will

1565
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,160
turn out to be you know this path of of

1566
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,839
the disclosure what melon and lou have

1567
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:45,599
laid out i hope that turns out to be the

1568
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,920
case like i really do but you know until

1569
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:50,079
that happens officially i'm not going to

1570
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,640
be fully onboard you know

1571
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,559
you don't need to mention it

1572
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:56,480
you don't you don't need to be like like

1573
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,400
i said nobody needs to prove [\h__\h] to

1574
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,160
anybody lou doesn't have to have

1575
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,960
anything to prove to you yeah or me for

1576
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,400
that matter and you don't have to prove

1577
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:06,319
anything to lou but what i will tell you

1578
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,079
is this i have signed one of those

1579
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,319
agreements like what he signed okay

1580
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,960
and what would happen if i violated that

1581
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:15,040
agreement is that's going to go up in

1582
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:16,799
front of the bosses the intel guys can

1583
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,799
bring that up and say this is what the

1584
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,440
violation was and depending upon how

1585
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:23,119
they feel about me

1586
00:59:27,270 --> 00:59:25,680
could depend on how hard they push us

1587
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,280
and it gets walked over to the judge

1588
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:29,520
advocate general and now you have a case

1589
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:32,880
against you lou is walking this line

1590
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,000
because how bad does anyone on this

1591
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:38,079
panel out of one to ten

1592
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:39,839
what do you think susan goff would want

1593
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,559
to prosecute lou watch him do a perp

1594
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:44,720
walk in an orange jumpsuit so you say

1595
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:47,119
see i told you all along he wasn't what

1596
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,040
i what he said he was

1597
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:51,040
of course yeah i mean she'd love to do

1598
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,200
that of course that and so that's what

1599
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:55,440
he's up against and anybody that would

1600
01:00:00,069 --> 00:59:57,839
suggest that this guy should give one

1601
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:00,079
piece of information that could send him

1602
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:03,200
to jail is a coward in my book i mean

1603
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,720
unless you're willing to go to jail and

1604
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:06,319
you're still a coward because you're not

1605
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,200
him

1606
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:09,359
but in in terms of that i mean it's

1607
01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:10,880
difficult because

1608
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:13,920
um i touched on it before like it's diff

1609
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,680
it's different from like in terms of the

1610
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:16,960
us

1611
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,799
your you guys are the only ones who were

1612
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,160
talking about this i promise like in

1613
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:22,160
terms of the uk nobody's talking about

1614
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:24,079
it and we're kind of like an ally of

1615
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:25,839
yours and it's the same with australia

1616
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:28,160
they had i think the pilot the house of

1617
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,160
parliament australia was like two or

1618
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,720
three weeks ago they had like a

1619
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:33,920
they had like a discussion there and

1620
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:35,359
they basically said that there's nothing

1621
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,960
to investigate effectively so it's it's

1622
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:40,319
weird to me

1623
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,240
how it's only the us who is talking

1624
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,839
about this it's so it's doesn't it

1625
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,240
doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense

1626
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:48,319
at all well they're that's why they're

1627
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:49,920
not behind it i don't know the reason

1628
01:00:53,829 --> 01:00:52,160
behind it well imagine that

1629
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,839
out of america

1630
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:55,440
no one else is really talking about it

1631
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:57,760
so it's kind of it's weird to me yeah

1632
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,880
that's strange

1633
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,400
yeah yeah

1634
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:01,839
i agree well

1635
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:02,799
i want to switch

1636
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:04,960
real quick to ask artemis a question

1637
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,119
about yeah

1638
01:01:10,630 --> 01:01:08,880
and i know one of the aspects of y'all's

1639
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,640
channel is kind of focusing a little bit

1640
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:12,720
on the mental health component and i

1641
01:01:16,630 --> 01:01:13,920
find that so

1642
01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:16,640
amazing and and important you know it's

1643
01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:18,559
particularly with this topic

1644
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,440
um

1645
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,319
you know one of the things that uh you

1646
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:24,000
know if you were to counsel somebody who

1647
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:26,160
just said hey i'm into ufos i'm going to

1648
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:28,319
start getting into ufo twitter tomorrow

1649
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:29,839
you know what what are some kind of

1650
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:31,440
words you would advice you would give

1651
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,160
them

1652
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,160
uh if they were going to jump in head

1653
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:35,839
first into the deep end how would you

1654
01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:37,440
help them kind of navigate all of these

1655
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,240
different theories and speculations and

1656
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:42,000
you know how do you how do you advocate

1657
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:43,599
for kind of staying grounded in the

1658
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:46,640
midst of all this crazy stuff

1659
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,599
um well to jump on ufo twitter i would

1660
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,599
say

1661
01:01:56,069 --> 01:01:53,599
you definitely have to be cautious of

1662
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:56,079
the ufo twitter and not get involved in

1663
01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:56,880
like

1664
01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:00,160
the petty drama and just stick to that

1665
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,760
there are a lot of good things that are

1666
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:04,319
on ufo twitter so just stick to like the

1667
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:07,039
articles that you find in like um when

1668
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:09,039
you meet an interesting person on there

1669
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,799
just gravitate towards

1670
01:02:14,150 --> 01:02:11,920
that

1671
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:14,160
um for the mental health side of it when

1672
01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:16,160
you are like

1673
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:18,319
you're taking in a lot of information

1674
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:20,720
and i would say that keeping an open

1675
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,640
mind is uh really important because

1676
01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:26,400
we don't have all the answers so we

1677
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:28,960
don't know we can't rule anything out

1678
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:30,079
really

1679
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,000
and we shouldn't

1680
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:34,880
to keep an open mind back and also not

1681
01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:37,760
to overwhelm yourself like when you are

1682
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:39,920
just beginning in the topic it can get

1683
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:41,520
overwhelming and like

1684
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:44,319
you really do start to see

1685
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:46,640
um the world in a different way and you

1686
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:48,400
really start to think

1687
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:49,359
um

1688
01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:52,319
about this stuff like a lot and like

1689
01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:54,000
you have to like remember that there is

1690
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,440
like a whole other world out of ufos you

1691
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:59,839
know whether you want to admit that or

1692
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,079
not right

1693
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:04,880
so it is important to actually

1694
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:07,440
ease yourself into it anyway and

1695
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,319
um

1696
01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:10,160
to trust also your intuition like if you

1697
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:11,039
think

1698
01:03:14,870 --> 01:03:12,319
like when you're listening to somebody

1699
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,880
if you're getting like a bad feeling of

1700
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:16,880
some kind or

1701
01:03:21,510 --> 01:03:17,760
don't

1702
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:22,950
like jiving with like whatever that

1703
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:25,599
person's saying like that's okay

1704
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,390
and i think i guess you're gonna have to

1705
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:44,480
be a little bit um

1706
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:46,319
zen like you know so

1707
01:03:49,589 --> 01:03:48,000
regardless of what really happens you

1708
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:49,599
still have to let it kind of flow past

1709
01:03:52,470 --> 01:03:50,400
you

1710
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,480
um i had a great uh

1711
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:54,720
chat oh it's so hard

1712
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:55,839
like i mean

1713
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:56,720
um

1714
01:04:02,069 --> 01:03:59,599
we always have that intention so even if

1715
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,079
we tell people just to like stay sand or

1716
01:04:05,029 --> 01:04:03,920
just to like back up

1717
01:04:08,309 --> 01:04:05,039
it's also

1718
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,319
easy to kind of stay sucked in or be

1719
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:10,559
like okay okay and like stay off for

1720
01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:11,599
like

1721
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,319
whatever you need to fix

1722
01:04:21,270 --> 01:04:20,319
and we really don't so

1723
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:21,280
um

1724
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:22,480
i think

1725
01:04:26,789 --> 01:04:24,319
to actually do that is really important

1726
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:26,799
and i mean we all get birds like me and

1727
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:28,559
josh have both felt in the last like oh

1728
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:31,440
yeah exactly and i mean it happens to

1729
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:32,880
the best of us especially the more

1730
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,920
involved you are in the topic it is uh

1731
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,319
tiring and

1732
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,400
just like mentally and like you know

1733
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,000
it's a lot of information that's always

1734
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:43,920
out there and like we want to know more

1735
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:45,520
about what's happening around the world

1736
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:47,760
that they're not either able to talk

1737
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:49,119
about or that they don't want to talk

1738
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,240
about like

1739
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:51,440
there's just

1740
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:55,280
such an overflow of information and

1741
01:04:58,950 --> 01:04:56,480
like just

1742
01:05:01,589 --> 01:04:58,960
what is going on out there that

1743
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:01,599
it gets overcoming for sure

1744
01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:03,440
i think there's fear the unknown too

1745
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:06,000
artemis i think because we don't know

1746
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:08,079
what we don't know what's gonna happen

1747
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:09,760
we don't know why

1748
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:13,119
their craft flying around and for many

1749
01:05:20,710 --> 01:05:16,640
of our friends that are on ufo twitter

1750
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:20,720
uh that we love it's extremely

1751
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:22,559
they're extremely fearful

1752
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:24,640
of not knowing what that is so if i

1753
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:26,400
could say well that is certainly a

1754
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,240
russian craft that is certainly a

1755
01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:30,559
chinese craft that's certainly u.s tech

1756
01:05:35,829 --> 01:05:33,280
then i can i can contextualize it i can

1757
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:35,839
put it in a box we love boxes right josh

1758
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:37,920
we got our containers here

1759
01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,760
we're building the side walls at the top

1760
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:42,000
um and and when we don't know it's

1761
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:43,280
really scary and that's actually going

1762
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,119
to take us into the next

1763
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:47,039
topic that i want to ask everybody on

1764
01:05:51,670 --> 01:05:49,359
the panel about is what contact looks

1765
01:05:54,069 --> 01:05:51,680
like but i think that is the source of

1766
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:54,079
fear for a lot of people when they read

1767
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,280
that oh then in 2019 the navy had had

1768
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:59,119
this incident and gee we didn't know

1769
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:00,720
about it and what why are they keep

1770
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,960
turning up in the navy's training areas

1771
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,720
and what it what do they want what are

1772
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,559
they going to do to us

1773
01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,160
so um do you guys want to talk about

1774
01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:10,160
contact now

1775
01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:12,960
contact josh josh contact so do you mean

1776
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:14,480
like what contact would mean to me or

1777
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:15,920
how or how do i think that it but it's

1778
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:18,720
going to happen or yes yes like

1779
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,200
does your mind's eye picture it and if

1780
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:23,119
it does so let's go around and uh we

1781
01:06:27,910 --> 01:06:24,160
could go

1782
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,920
uh josh and artemis nate and um akashi

1783
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,760
what do you think that that would look

1784
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:31,039
like

1785
01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:32,400
it's a difficult question

1786
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:33,920
um

1787
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:42,400
and it depends on what like the

1788
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:44,160
intentions are of these

1789
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:46,400
beings or whatever you want to call them

1790
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:49,440
um you know what what

1791
01:06:53,430 --> 01:06:51,520
what their intentions are but if if like

1792
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:53,440
you believe the ufo topic they've kind

1793
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:54,880
of already made that cog you know i've

1794
01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:57,039
already been doing that for

1795
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:58,640
for thousands of years you know you can

1796
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:01,599
go back to you know for a long long time

1797
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:03,119
and they've been making contact you know

1798
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,039
you touched on it at the start of the

1799
01:07:09,910 --> 01:07:07,039
show about the uh gene

1800
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:09,920
manipulation and stuff you know um if

1801
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,240
that's if that's true i'm not sure if it

1802
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:14,079
is but if that's true then that just

1803
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:16,160
proves that they've been here for a very

1804
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,880
very long time um and that contact's

1805
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,400
already made so

1806
01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:22,480
and if that theory is true you know what

1807
01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:25,359
john the ramirez is saying there um that

1808
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:26,960
would mean that

1809
01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:29,599
they basically influenced

1810
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:30,640
our

1811
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:33,119
you know but today today i'm saying

1812
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:36,480
today today yeah not 70 because we can't

1813
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,440
i'm saying

1814
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,520
today you're at the chip shop and you

1815
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,039
decide that you're not going to get

1816
01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:43,200
caught today because you know it's fried

1817
01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:44,640
you ask if they have anything steamed

1818
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:46,319
they tell you no get out we don't have

1819
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:48,240
anything steamed it's only fried and you

1820
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:49,520
go outside and then all of a sudden

1821
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:53,119
there's a craft hovering yeah

1822
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:54,960
i mean for the average person

1823
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:57,599
and they'd probably be scared if i'm

1824
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,160
honest um something that they don't

1825
01:08:05,109 --> 01:08:02,400
or you know they've got no

1826
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:05,119
reference to to make sense of it you

1827
01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:06,480
know um

1828
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:08,960
so you know a lot of it would would be

1829
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:12,160
fear i guess um you know you know you

1830
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:13,280
guys touched on that if you go back

1831
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,680
through history um humans we always kind

1832
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,440
of fear the things we don't understand

1833
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:19,679
um so for the general public i guess

1834
01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:22,239
there would be a lot of fear um

1835
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,679
for people in the ufo world would

1836
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,359
probably see it circulating around on

1837
01:08:29,269 --> 01:08:27,440
ufo twitter to be a video

1838
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,279
we probably think it was amazing you

1839
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,960
know um

1840
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,400
but for the general public who aren't

1841
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,719
really aware of what's going on in terms

1842
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,400
of this topic and like the history and

1843
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:39,199
what's happened it would be scary for

1844
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:40,400
sure

1845
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:42,319
atomos

1846
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:44,080
well i was going to say that

1847
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,799
where like people wouldn't understand we

1848
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,400
wouldn't understand but because we've

1849
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:50,080
been conditioned in like

1850
01:08:56,070 --> 01:08:53,120
tv and movies and all of

1851
01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:56,080
like and books and and podcasts and all

1852
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,640
this stuff like we've already

1853
01:09:02,229 --> 01:09:00,080
like our brains would be able to

1854
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:02,239
recognize at least what it is i think we

1855
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:04,400
would have fear but also

1856
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,520
a lot of curiosity and maybe like

1857
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,440
also like skepticism is to like if

1858
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,799
they're actually seeing something out of

1859
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:12,960
this world or if they're seeing

1860
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:14,880
like some movie set

1861
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:16,400
um

1862
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:17,679
and like

1863
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:20,480
i think people would be confused as well

1864
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:21,839
and maybe some people would be kind of

1865
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:23,920
excited thinking like oh cool like what

1866
01:09:28,870 --> 01:09:26,159
is this until they realize like

1867
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,880
that it's oh

1868
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:31,120
you're like wait those costumes are like

1869
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:36,309
like how do they make that

1870
01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:37,359
no but

1871
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:38,799
um

1872
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:40,799
yeah i think that

1873
01:09:44,630 --> 01:09:42,880
we'll probably

1874
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,640
a lot of people react different ways but

1875
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:46,640
i think some people will actually

1876
01:09:52,309 --> 01:09:50,239
like it might surprise us how much

1877
01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:52,319
we've already been conditioned and maybe

1878
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:55,679
aren't even aware of that like how much

1879
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,320
we are conditioned until we've seen it

1880
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,719
in real life and then we're like oh

1881
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:02,480
this actually doesn't seem

1882
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,280
so insane right now why

1883
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,679
because you know what what's been on tv

1884
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,520
the last like

1885
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:11,920
60 70 i don't even know how many years

1886
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,880
now

1887
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:14,080
um

1888
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:16,320
so it i think it's going to be a lot

1889
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,400
more mixed than we think and because so

1890
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:19,920
many people actually

1891
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:23,120
are more open-minded these days um

1892
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:24,960
like i think there was like a percentage

1893
01:10:29,510 --> 01:10:27,600
like of the states like it was over 50

1894
01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:29,520
of the states that believe

1895
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:30,640
um

1896
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,400
that aliens could exist or something so

1897
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:36,000
i mean

1898
01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:37,360
there's probably a lot more people that

1899
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:39,199
weren't i don't know what they voted

1900
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,280
with to determine how many people

1901
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,280
believe in it but i'm sure there's a lot

1902
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,800
more people

1903
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:46,719
than just that percentage as well that

1904
01:10:50,709 --> 01:10:48,000
probably

1905
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:50,719
you know wouldn't be surprised if there

1906
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:53,360
was somebody out there like maybe not

1907
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,719
believing that we've already been

1908
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:57,120
visited but the possibility of life i'm

1909
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,719
sure a lot of people would agree that

1910
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,320
that's possible

1911
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:01,600
so

1912
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,800
yeah i

1913
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,920
um

1914
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,520
for just like i don't know i don't want

1915
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:07,360
to say that word for um

1916
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:09,280
no no it's just about it's just a matter

1917
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:15,750
no no it's all good you know that was a

1918
01:11:18,790 --> 01:11:17,199
joke from the beginning of the show it's

1919
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:18,800
a visceral reaction though you see

1920
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:19,840
something

1921
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,920
know that's all that's what i was asking

1922
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,440
nathan i definitely think there'll be

1923
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:27,840
some fear but i think it'll surprise us

1924
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,880
how much

1925
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,080
um

1926
01:11:34,149 --> 01:11:31,920
maybe that even that initial fear

1927
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:34,159
reaction might go away

1928
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,760
hold on one second i'm hearing a loud

1929
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:37,199
background noise

1930
01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:40,960
who's that coming from can everybody um

1931
01:11:45,510 --> 01:11:43,280
okay go ahead nathan

1932
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:45,520
or uh artemis i was hearing this like

1933
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:49,040
out loud but finish your thoughts yeah

1934
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:51,679
i hope it's not me um no i'm not hearing

1935
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:54,480
it now so we're good go ahead uh artists

1936
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,800
or money nate whoever's up

1937
01:11:59,270 --> 01:11:58,159
i want you to finish your thought if you

1938
01:11:59,650 --> 01:11:59,280
if you

1939
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:59,660
uh

1940
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:01,280
[Music]

1941
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,440
i blame dj i blame dj it's his fault

1942
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:07,360
no it's all good man yeah i mean i i

1943
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:08,800
think of this i think that what you the

1944
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,040
way you framed it dj was really

1945
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:13,120
appropriate you know sort of the box

1946
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,560
analogy

1947
01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,239
um

1948
01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:18,239
it's sort of what what is wrapped up in

1949
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:21,040
this moment for you you know and and

1950
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:22,400
this is going to be different for every

1951
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:24,080
person right think of what's wrapped up

1952
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:26,080
in that moment for an experiencer think

1953
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,600
of what's wrapped up in that moment for

1954
01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:29,760
someone that is a a traditional

1955
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:31,840
religious person you know think of

1956
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:33,199
what's wrapped up in that moment for

1957
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:35,760
someone who's in ufo twitter you know

1958
01:12:39,830 --> 01:12:38,159
who hasn't had a direct experience so

1959
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:39,840
you know we're all kind of going to be

1960
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:43,280
laying on top of the phenomenon our own

1961
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:45,600
uh sort of issues or preconceptions or

1962
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:47,199
whatever it is

1963
01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:48,080
and

1964
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,920
i think it's important that we actually

1965
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:51,520
think through

1966
01:12:55,510 --> 01:12:53,440
whatever those whatever whatever the

1967
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,520
lens you're viewing this from now and

1968
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:57,679
viewing what i say this viewing reality

1969
01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,920
as you as you know it yeah whatever lens

1970
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:01,679
that happens to be it's important to

1971
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:04,800
examine that and understand that because

1972
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,120
regardless of what what actually comes

1973
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:09,120
out you know we still got to deal with

1974
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:11,120
that lens that lens isn't going anywhere

1975
01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:13,600
you know so we need to to hold that

1976
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,679
examine it and be ready

1977
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:16,880
to

1978
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,960
kind of shatter it if you will

1979
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,960
it whenever this moment comes and get

1980
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,040
give give away give up

1981
01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,520
our our biases or our preconceptions for

1982
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:28,080
and be open to whatever this might be i

1983
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:29,920
think it will be a very mixed picture

1984
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,679
you know to josh to your point i think

1985
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,760
there will be a lot of um fear there

1986
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:35,199
will be a lot of um

1987
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,880
you know sort of divisiveness in the

1988
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:37,760
world

1989
01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:44,000
government's on the same page the better

1990
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:45,679
that this will go

1991
01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:48,080
but there will absolutely be people who

1992
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:50,800
aren't going to hear anything that that

1993
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:53,360
any official outlet tells them

1994
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:55,280
you know and that's what concerns me as

1995
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,040
well like i've touched on it before how

1996
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:59,040
you know in the uk for example nobody's

1997
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,520
talking about it you know it's um

1998
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,040
you know the average person doesn't have

1999
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:05,280
a clue who emily lazonda is we don't

2000
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,719
have a clue you know we don't have a

2001
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,320
clue who who

2002
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:09,920
who these guys are you know but if you

2003
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:11,840
go into america who's on fox news he's

2004
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:13,040
on cnn

2005
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:15,199
you know in like the uk no one would

2006
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:17,760
know who who the hell he is so it's like

2007
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:18,560
it's

2008
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,159
looking up i'm looking at it from like

2009
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:24,080
the uk perspective here you know if like

2010
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:27,120
a craft did come come down in the uk

2011
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:29,600
there would be fear because no one's

2012
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:31,360
it hasn't been talked about what

2013
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,159
whatsoever you know so to have something

2014
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:36,400
like that you know landon you know in

2015
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:38,960
london sent in in central london or

2016
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:41,120
something for example huge crap

2017
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,800
um

2018
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,040
it would be a lot of fear 100

2019
01:14:48,870 --> 01:14:47,360
yep nathan like for you let's say you

2020
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,880
you know you walk out of chick-fil-a you

2021
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:50,640
got your wife your kids there

2022
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:53,120
you decided to get the grilled chicken

2023
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:55,360
uh and no mayo packets

2024
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:58,560
uh while your kids actually got the you

2025
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,239
know the super meal that had the

2026
01:15:04,870 --> 01:15:02,560
coleslaw and the waffle fries and the

2027
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,880
chicken breast sandwich okay and

2028
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:07,040
and you're walking out to the car and

2029
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:11,520
the craft is is now descending um just

2030
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,880
let's say a hundred yards from or

2031
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:16,080
let's make it shorter let's make it a

2032
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:18,960
hundred feet from your car yeah are you

2033
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:20,560
and you're holding the kid's hands are

2034
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,040
you kind of going towards it or are you

2035
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:25,520
like unlocking the porsche panamera and

2036
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,280
jumping inside

2037
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:29,120
yeah well i mean from from what i know

2038
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,960
about uap guys don't get too close to

2039
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:32,480
them i don't want some

2040
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,640
radiation situation

2041
01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,560
so i think i would probably you know

2042
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:38,400
stand back a little bit but but i'm a

2043
01:15:43,750 --> 01:15:41,679
curious person by nature so i my default

2044
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:43,760
setting is let's learn more about it you

2045
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:45,600
know let's continue to learn more about

2046
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:47,440
it and so but i think the world is

2047
01:15:52,070 --> 01:15:49,920
divided in in terms of personalities

2048
01:15:53,990 --> 01:15:52,080
that like the boxes that you mentioned

2049
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:54,000
and those that want to open every box

2050
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:55,600
and i'm going to open every box and see

2051
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,000
what all the boxes have and where i

2052
01:16:01,270 --> 01:16:00,320
where i struggle with that dichotomy is

2053
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:01,280
that

2054
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:02,880
kind of people who find themselves in

2055
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:04,239
one side or the other we tend to like

2056
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:05,360
look at the other side and be like well

2057
01:16:09,110 --> 01:16:07,360
don't be a box person the other side's

2058
01:16:10,870 --> 01:16:09,120
like don't be an open box person but the

2059
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,880
truth is like we actually need both of

2060
01:16:14,709 --> 01:16:12,800
these personalities we need we need the

2061
01:16:16,070 --> 01:16:14,719
box people and we close box people and

2062
01:16:17,910 --> 01:16:16,080
open box people we're going to have to

2063
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,920
figure this out together

2064
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:19,840
there are benefits to both of those

2065
01:16:24,149 --> 01:16:22,640
perspectives particularly if

2066
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:24,159
all of a sudden one day we find

2067
01:16:27,669 --> 01:16:25,280
ourselves

2068
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:27,679
on the same team the human team

2069
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:30,159
uh and and we're coming face to face

2070
01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:32,400
with a non-human something i don't i

2071
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:34,239
don't know that that's in us versus them

2072
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:35,840
situation but it is

2073
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,400
by kind of staring at this other we are

2074
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:40,320
going to find our reflections coming

2075
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:41,440
back at us

2076
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,280
and we we have to be ready for that

2077
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:45,679
moment and be ready to kind of listen to

2078
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:46,960
each other in a way that i don't think

2079
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,360
we're doing at all right now so we need

2080
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:51,280
to be better than lit listeners before

2081
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:52,480
anything definitely a great night from

2082
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:55,760
yeah yeah yeah um akashi uh you're

2083
01:16:59,669 --> 01:16:57,440
walking at a walmart

2084
01:17:01,910 --> 01:16:59,679
i ask you to get the gluten-free crust

2085
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,920
and i really do appreciate that because

2086
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:03,440
it's actually better without the

2087
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:06,719
pepperoni on it so thank you for the uh

2088
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,600
the freschetta uh gluten-free crust

2089
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,239
and um all of a sudden

2090
01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:14,640
near your car there's some saucer-shaped

2091
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,440
craft that is descending down

2092
01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:19,520
and you do what

2093
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:22,000
um i started getting far enough of

2094
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:24,560
weight and i'd get hit by the radiation

2095
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:26,239
because we've done our research and we

2096
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,920
know that that burns

2097
01:17:31,350 --> 01:17:28,800
uh

2098
01:17:32,709 --> 01:17:31,360
i try to get part of the way that i

2099
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:32,719
don't get abducted because i don't

2100
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:35,199
necessarily want to go up there

2101
01:17:38,229 --> 01:17:36,239
whatever

2102
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:38,239
so um but

2103
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:40,239
i'm more

2104
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,679
i would be

2105
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:43,600
prepared mentally

2106
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:45,920
but i know so many are not

2107
01:17:50,550 --> 01:17:48,480
and the fear in their faces when you

2108
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,560
even bring in the subject it is

2109
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:52,800
immediate denial

2110
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:56,800
and that's what concerns me most we are

2111
01:18:02,550 --> 01:17:59,679
more i mean

2112
01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:02,560
it's that fear

2113
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:05,600
i i this my personal opinion not

2114
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:07,440
disclaimer not the opinion calling all

2115
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:08,910
beings

2116
01:18:15,990 --> 01:18:13,040
[Laughter]

2117
01:18:17,830 --> 01:18:16,000
uh religion and ufos are not mutually

2118
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,840
exclusive to me

2119
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:19,280
god is

2120
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:21,120
the creative

2121
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:24,480
force of earth

2122
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,880
but a lot of people will turn it

2123
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:29,280
immediately into something like an

2124
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,199
existential crisis um turn to their you

2125
01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:35,360
know back to what avi was saying it's

2126
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,440
like it's going to be a spiritual

2127
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:39,199
journey for many

2128
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:40,719
and um

2129
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,760
i mean they my friends laugh at me i i

2130
01:18:48,310 --> 01:18:45,600
crack up because i'm like you laugh at

2131
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,320
the hippie just wait till something

2132
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:50,320
happens

2133
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,400
with the observables the type of craft

2134
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,560
you know is it gray is it a mantis i

2135
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:58,880
mean you know and i have joking because

2136
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:00,800
i'm trying to introduce topics in a

2137
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,640
spoon-feeding type of way

2138
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:04,800
you're not ready to hear it all we're

2139
01:19:10,070 --> 01:19:07,760
down ultra-dimensional by now they're

2140
01:19:13,350 --> 01:19:10,080
still don't even know what gimbal tic

2141
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,360
tac and go fast is and and and you'll be

2142
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:16,080
surprised josh you think that it's more

2143
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:18,800
mainstream it's not i mean it's still

2144
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:21,679
there's a small ball here in the in

2145
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:22,800
mainland

2146
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:25,199
in puerto rico so i'm from puerto rico

2147
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,480
and in puerto rico even though we're

2148
01:19:30,350 --> 01:19:28,000
part of the united states it's a little

2149
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:30,360
bit of a different we grew up

2150
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,960
understanding and believing that they're

2151
01:19:37,189 --> 01:19:34,560
we're not alone

2152
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:37,199
so it just kind of to them i talked to

2153
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:39,120
them every couple of weeks to my high

2154
01:19:42,149 --> 01:19:40,880
school friends and they're like oh yeah

2155
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:42,159
i see stuff

2156
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:44,880
and they don't have that issue but a lot

2157
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:46,800
of people that i know just have that

2158
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:49,199
fear and it just concerns me because

2159
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:51,040
it's the rather i rather not know i'd

2160
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:53,120
rather take the other pill give me the

2161
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,640
stake i don't want to know i'm having a

2162
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:57,040
slop and that's that's the part where i

2163
01:20:04,390 --> 01:19:58,400
think

2164
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:06,550
i was going to be anjali sherpa until i

2165
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,800
saw my career flash before my eyes but

2166
01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:10,800
that's another matter

2167
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:14,000
so you know a guidance sherpa you know

2168
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:15,760
i was going to carry her backpack she's

2169
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:18,719
she's ill she's dealing with some issues

2170
01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:20,000
i was going to carry her water her

2171
01:20:26,709 --> 01:20:22,800
backpack power bars a couple of salmon

2172
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:26,719
uh jerky uh packages but um and even the

2173
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,120
her headlamp for her do we want to ask

2174
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:31,440
claire what he would think i'm gonna i'm

2175
01:20:35,430 --> 01:20:32,960
gonna bring flair in but i didn't get to

2176
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:35,440
give my perspective jesus oh my goodness

2177
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:36,960
shut up josh

2178
01:20:44,070 --> 01:20:42,149
you gave her that power you gotta watch

2179
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:44,080
me

2180
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:46,480
no i'll be i'll be quick i'll be quick

2181
01:20:51,669 --> 01:20:49,199
what i wanted to say to all of you was

2182
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:51,679
we can have ideas about

2183
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:53,840
including myself about what we think we

2184
01:20:57,430 --> 01:20:54,880
would do

2185
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,440
then you talked to max

2186
01:21:02,950 --> 01:20:59,840
and and i believe max and when you look

2187
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,960
at max you figure out uh he has some

2188
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,800
acting credits in the uk by the way when

2189
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:06,960
you go to his imdb because he has it

2190
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,880
listed on there

2191
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,560
and he looks like the kind of guy that

2192
01:21:14,310 --> 01:21:12,320
if you went to a man you game and you

2193
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,320
pissed him off he'd take his beer bottle

2194
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,159
and bust it over your head

2195
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:19,520
so he looks like uh you know picture he

2196
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:22,159
looks like a uk movie tough guy guy

2197
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:23,760
richie right

2198
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:26,480
okay hey blurry what's up blurry

2199
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,199
welcome girlfriend um

2200
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,120
so the thing what i was going to say to

2201
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:33,840
you is that um

2202
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,080
he said that when he was approached the

2203
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:37,360
second time

2204
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,360
and this thing is 90 feet above his

2205
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:41,440
house and he said you know 30 meters

2206
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,480
roughly

2207
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,040
he said um

2208
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,280
he was with his young son and that's why

2209
01:21:51,669 --> 01:21:49,360
i asked nathan that question

2210
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,679
and un he said i don't scare easily and

2211
01:21:55,189 --> 01:21:53,600
that's back to my thing about he looks

2212
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:55,199
like the type of guy who would bust his

2213
01:21:58,310 --> 01:21:57,520
beer glasses on your head

2214
01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:58,320
he

2215
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:01,760
said an uncontrollable fear came over me

2216
01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:03,760
even though i had already seen he had

2217
01:22:06,830 --> 01:22:05,840
already had beings come in his house

2218
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:06,840
black

2219
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:10,000
anthropomorphic beings floated into his

2220
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:10,880
house

2221
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,600
yes yes and then floated out right

2222
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:15,840
and when he described this cylindrical

2223
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:18,639
object he was stricken with a a fear

2224
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:21,040
that he could not control so my answer

2225
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:22,080
is

2226
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:23,760
even if i think i know what i'm going to

2227
01:22:27,669 --> 01:22:25,920
do i have no idea because yeah we've

2228
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:27,679
never experienced we could be terrified

2229
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:29,679
and like run and see if i can get

2230
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:31,520
underneath my car and that's the thing

2231
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:33,520
until you see it i mean i've spoken to

2232
01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:36,400
people like like on instagram lives or

2233
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:39,120
or like on youtube or whatever and um

2234
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:41,120
like they said to me like you don't

2235
01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:43,280
understand like until you actually see

2236
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,400
that craft or you know being or whatever

2237
01:22:50,229 --> 01:22:48,400
you can't it's something what you can't

2238
01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:50,239
comprehend until you actually see it so

2239
01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:51,840
you know dj you're right there i think

2240
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:53,600
you know it's something which until we

2241
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,880
actually see it ourselves we don't

2242
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,480
really know how like we feel at the end

2243
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,320
of the day but i just learned i mean i

2244
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,159
just had this you know interaction with

2245
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:02,400
him sunday night and like he gave me

2246
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,080
he's had two or three and he's scared to

2247
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,159
take his son in the woods now he's like

2248
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,239
if i take my son in the woods

2249
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,159
uh in our hiking trails and i don't have

2250
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,880
a gaggle of people around me i feel like

2251
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:14,880
he could be vulnerable if something

2252
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:16,880
happens the anjali thing nathan will

2253
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,560
tell you i was 100 down to go and and go

2254
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:23,199
face to face with those beings but the

2255
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,840
craft is a whole you know i have to take

2256
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,120
what he said

2257
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,360
he saw one and i

2258
01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:31,199
haven't i have had a sighting but not

2259
01:23:36,229 --> 01:23:33,679
like what he had not like right over his

2260
01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:36,239
home where it was like in his his space

2261
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,719
anyway let's bring on stephen grier's

2262
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:40,320
flare because after this we got a beat

2263
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,800
feet because somebody driving to coral

2264
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:44,480
springs florida tomorrow we talk about

2265
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:46,880
like an eight and a half nine hour drive

2266
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,400
and i haven't packed yet so oh boy

2267
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:52,159
my wife's packed all the

2268
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:54,000
dogs and cats stuff and her stuff but i

2269
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:57,040
guess still got a pack so nice

2270
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:00,800
griers flare man look at that man

2271
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:03,120
what's up man what's up steven

2272
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,040
what's up can you guys hear me how you

2273
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,040
doing flair you sound good man

2274
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,440
you can hear me yup yeah all right i

2275
01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:11,760
look nearly as good as josh go ahead

2276
01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:14,080
almost

2277
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:20,790
what's up josh

2278
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,400
josh oh yeah you okay how you doing

2279
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:26,480
what's up rms

2280
01:24:30,550 --> 01:24:28,480
good how are you

2281
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:30,560
i'm really good

2282
01:24:35,990 --> 01:24:34,080
so i got some questions for you guys

2283
01:24:38,470 --> 01:24:36,000
are you ready

2284
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:38,480
yeah very ready

2285
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:41,120
right then i love career flair

2286
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:43,600
are you ready all right

2287
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:47,430
josh

2288
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,170
if that's what your name is

2289
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,440
[Laughter]

2290
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:53,440
i found it rather sus that your name

2291
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:01,750
so tell me josh

2292
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:03,679
what was the light growing up in

2293
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:24,950
it was challenging

2294
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:26,550
yeah yeah

2295
01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,880
all right that was a good answer the air

2296
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:30,560
conditioning never worked in that manger

2297
01:25:35,990 --> 01:25:32,800
go ahead

2298
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:36,000
did you make friends with these sheep

2299
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:39,280
we did yes i did yeah um i mean that's

2300
01:25:44,550 --> 01:25:42,480
how i made all these clothes i'm wearing

2301
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,560
interesting all the milk and stuff so

2302
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:46,400
yeah it was all good carpenter at a

2303
01:25:54,750 --> 01:25:51,830
mother is a virgin that must have been

2304
01:25:58,470 --> 01:25:54,760
awkward at the parties

2305
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,480
[Laughter]

2306
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:01,040
anyways artemis i have a question for

2307
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,040
you

2308
01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:05,040
so um

2309
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:07,120
what what's your favorite meal for

2310
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,189
great question i love this yep i love

2311
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:17,830
how do you like your eggs in the morning

2312
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:18,880
oh

2313
01:26:24,709 --> 01:26:22,480
so if i'm gonna have some

2314
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,719
if if if i want to dip my eggs then

2315
01:26:30,550 --> 01:26:27,360
definitely sunny side up with like bacon

2316
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,560
and either like home fries or toast with

2317
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:32,159
butter

2318
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:33,360
or

2319
01:26:40,390 --> 01:26:36,800
pancakes definitely she makes the best

2320
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:40,400
uh pancakes i've had for sure so

2321
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:43,280
steve nice wow this is this is amazing

2322
01:26:47,270 --> 01:26:45,280
man no more full english black

2323
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:47,280
breakfast for josh man no he's going

2324
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:50,639
american style

2325
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,080
say that

2326
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,480
she's a keeper if she makes pancakes

2327
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:58,719
yeah i would agree

2328
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,920
all right

2329
01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:01,520
flair do you have anything else before

2330
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:02,960
we throw you out of here

2331
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,440
yes i do i wanted to know what um now

2332
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:07,199
that we're on the subject of food what

2333
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:08,880
what would josh like

2334
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,320
like say for his last meal

2335
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:15,120
like last supper type thing no his last

2336
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:16,159
meal

2337
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:30,950
[Laughter]

2338
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,760
was a straight face i'm proud of myself

2339
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,960
hey

2340
01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:36,719
i would just say a steak i'd say steak

2341
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:39,760
and chips bacon bacon eggs making chips

2342
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:42,320
a classic yeah steak british british

2343
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:46,080
yeah it means steak and fries

2344
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:47,199
oh

2345
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:49,040
gotcha okay i'll stop torturing your

2346
01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:57,510
i'm afraid he's trying to steal josh

2347
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,330
he's already planning his

2348
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:02,880
[Laughter]

2349
01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:04,159
either that or it's going to be sort of

2350
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:06,159
a silence of the lambs thing and like

2351
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:07,679
josh is going to be at the bottom of

2352
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:10,159
some sort of a pit careers flair uh

2353
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:12,080
first of all i love you uh i have heart

2354
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:14,159
bubble emojis for you josh and nathan

2355
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:15,760
now um

2356
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:19,040
and i would like um you to uh come on

2357
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,440
next time and uh and come up with

2358
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:23,920
incredibly uncomfortable questions again

2359
01:28:26,149 --> 01:28:24,719
okay

2360
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:26,159
what i do best

2361
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:28,480
thank you uh we'll see i'll talk to you

2362
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:30,639
okay brother thank you so much i really

2363
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,320
appreciate you man thank you man thanks

2364
01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:34,480
for joining us thank you so much

2365
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:36,000
yep

2366
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:39,120
oh wow if it's not enough that we have

2367
01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:40,560
the son of

2368
01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:41,600
god

2369
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:44,480
in our presence

2370
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:47,520
but we have a greek goddess uh we have

2371
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:50,000
the empress of puerto rico the i guess

2372
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,920
uh the puerto rico's answer to helen of

2373
01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:52,800
troy

2374
01:28:57,510 --> 01:28:55,840
and uh and sir arthur conan doyle at her

2375
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:57,520
right hand right there

2376
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,199
nathan um

2377
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:01,040
i i'm really sorry that i'm gonna have

2378
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:03,120
to end a little bit earlier than i want

2379
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:05,840
to but my wife said you know pack

2380
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:08,800
nothing need to do you close

2381
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:12,400
so uh in her her uh

2382
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:15,360
language that we've called katyanis so

2383
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:16,320
anyway

2384
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:18,960
um yeah so uh first of all

2385
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:20,480
i just want to tell you guys where the

2386
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,000
hair thing comes from because you guys

2387
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:24,560
must be wondering how that came up

2388
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:31,669
beautiful yeah the talk of hair has been

2389
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:34,320
going on for in my life for many years

2390
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,920
but basically in my job in the air force

2391
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:40,000
other flight engineer guys you you

2392
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:41,840
basically have two of everything on the

2393
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:43,280
airplane except the flight engineer

2394
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,360
you're alone so there's two pilots

2395
01:29:49,510 --> 01:29:47,600
there's two navigator types and two guys

2396
01:29:51,750 --> 01:29:49,520
in the back that are load masters so

2397
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,760
when you show up to debrief you're all

2398
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,080
alone so you have to have a certain kind

2399
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:56,480
of a thick skin so if you screwed up

2400
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:58,480
uh they're going to tell you and you're

2401
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,000
not going to have any backup there to

2402
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:02,159
back you up so

2403
01:30:07,990 --> 01:30:05,440
uh it's a very a personality type thick

2404
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,000
skin type group so i figure what can i

2405
01:30:12,070 --> 01:30:10,560
do that can make everybody drop that

2406
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,080
guard a little bit

2407
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:14,239
smile a little bit and not have this

2408
01:30:20,310 --> 01:30:17,679
steely steel face like all the time so i

2409
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:20,320
started mentioning which one of us had

2410
01:30:24,709 --> 01:30:22,239
nice hair of course my hair's been

2411
01:30:26,709 --> 01:30:24,719
falling out since my 30s

2412
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:26,719
chris you saw me in the 30s in that one

2413
01:30:31,110 --> 01:30:29,280
photo i sent you from france

2414
01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:31,120
so anyway but

2415
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,040
so that's how it started and it just

2416
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,360
gained popularity and people would i

2417
01:30:39,430 --> 01:30:37,440
wasn't the only one that would mention

2418
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:39,440
when someone had great hair and i

2419
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:41,920
figured out this is like a fun thing

2420
01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:43,679
that everybody can

2421
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:45,600
admire when somebody has great hair so

2422
01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:48,800
i've just carried it from probably

2423
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:53,360
2002 in 2000 until now no even 2000

2424
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:55,679
until now so yeah that's how long i've

2425
01:30:59,350 --> 01:30:57,199
been talking about hair with various

2426
01:31:15,270 --> 01:30:59,360
groups of friends so

2427
01:31:19,590 --> 01:31:17,830
notifications it's all about hair right

2428
01:31:20,870 --> 01:31:19,600
it was incredible breaking news ufo

2429
01:31:23,270 --> 01:31:20,880
twitter oh it's just

2430
01:31:24,709 --> 01:31:23,280
it's just but everybody i don't know i

2431
01:31:27,430 --> 01:31:24,719
don't know what it is but there's

2432
01:31:31,750 --> 01:31:27,440
something about it so i i want to really

2433
01:31:35,910 --> 01:31:33,990
it's incredible man i i really want to

2434
01:31:38,070 --> 01:31:35,920
thank chris and for that just

2435
01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:38,080
specifically i'd like to thank grant i'd

2436
01:31:43,669 --> 01:31:40,880
like to thank flair and even alien gray

2437
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:43,679
got in the mix like at the end and so

2438
01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:46,320
thank you alien gray all of you guys uh

2439
01:31:51,910 --> 01:31:49,280
bringing us so much joy uh and making us

2440
01:31:53,270 --> 01:31:51,920
laugh and and it takes time to do that

2441
01:31:55,910 --> 01:31:53,280
it's not something that just happens in

2442
01:31:57,669 --> 01:31:55,920
10 seconds so um i just from the bottom

2443
01:31:59,910 --> 01:31:57,679
of my heart thank you very much for

2444
01:32:02,310 --> 01:31:59,920
taking our joke and carrying it and

2445
01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:02,320
coming up when i saw artemis looking

2446
01:32:06,390 --> 01:32:04,639
like beyonce and then all of a sudden

2447
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:06,400
josh looked like all these different

2448
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:09,679
models blonde instead of dark you know

2449
01:32:14,229 --> 01:32:12,480
new looks here's my mind it was amazing

2450
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:14,239
all right so what i'd like to do now if

2451
01:32:18,709 --> 01:32:16,960
you would is pleased to uh promo all of

2452
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,719
your stuff and we're very

2453
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:21,120
you know can you if you could just look

2454
01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:23,920
to your right josh and artemis look to

2455
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:25,920
your left and then you can even blow a

2456
01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:28,080
kiss and you'll get it

2457
01:32:35,270 --> 01:32:33,750
love is in the air

2458
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,280
so um

2459
01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:37,440
yeah please uh talk about uh all your

2460
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,639
social media so that uh more i mean more

2461
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:43,199
people are already following you

2462
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:44,719
but if we can get a couple more people

2463
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,560
that would be awesome so go ahead please

2464
01:32:52,310 --> 01:32:48,239
yeah

2465
01:32:54,310 --> 01:32:52,320
our link links we've basically got one

2466
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:54,320
uh link link tree now so it's the prime

2467
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:56,560
time one uh so if you go in there it's

2468
01:33:01,830 --> 01:32:59,120
got um it's got our combined links it's

2469
01:33:04,390 --> 01:33:01,840
got artemis's links and my links all all

2470
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:04,400
in one page now so it's easy to find

2471
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:05,520
um

2472
01:33:09,669 --> 01:33:06,800
yeah in terms of what we've got coming

2473
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:09,679
up tomorrow we've got philip uh mantle

2474
01:33:13,910 --> 01:33:12,080
so he's like a ufo researcher from the

2475
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:13,920
uk

2476
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:14,880
phillip

2477
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:17,600
yeah so he's like an og when it comes to

2478
01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:19,760
this topic so he's um he's done a lot of

2479
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:22,080
research he's actually read a few he's

2480
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:23,600
uh wrote a few books he's been a

2481
01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:25,199
broadcaster as well so that's going to

2482
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:26,400
be interesting

2483
01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:29,760
um that's at 5 pm uk time i think that's

2484
01:33:34,830 --> 01:33:31,600
what time is that eastern

2485
01:33:38,229 --> 01:33:34,840
noon eastern eastern yeah

2486
01:33:40,550 --> 01:33:38,239
um then on friday we've got a round

2487
01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:40,560
table with benji who's in the chat i can

2488
01:33:42,790 --> 01:33:41,440
see

2489
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:42,800
yeah

2490
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:43,920
benji

2491
01:34:03,350 --> 01:33:45,840
yeah we've got priscilla who's uh the

2492
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:04,709
so we

2493
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:06,400
nice we've got

2494
01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:07,920
who we've interviewed before but then

2495
01:34:11,830 --> 01:34:10,080
we've got another researcher uh from

2496
01:34:13,830 --> 01:34:11,840
china who's i'm a female as well so

2497
01:34:15,270 --> 01:34:13,840
we're going to put that out um this week

2498
01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:15,280
so very exciting we're going to be

2499
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:17,120
interested to get that perspective uh

2500
01:34:19,990 --> 01:34:19,120
from china again so yeah 100 that's

2501
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:20,000
awesome

2502
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,360
100 homes man nathan uh anything final

2503
01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:24,639
for the group

2504
01:34:28,229 --> 01:34:26,480
i'm just so grateful to have you guys on

2505
01:34:29,910 --> 01:34:28,239
uh really thank you guys thank you

2506
01:34:31,990 --> 01:34:29,920
really glad for everything that y'all do

2507
01:34:33,510 --> 01:34:32,000
the positivity and the engagement with

2508
01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:33,520
the community so just keep up the good

2509
01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:35,840
work and let's spread the word for sure

2510
01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:37,600
it's it's it's in terms of ourselves

2511
01:34:41,990 --> 01:34:39,199
we're only a new channel really so we're

2512
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,000
just uh new to all of this stuff so yeah

2513
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,480
it's great and to meet you guys and just

2514
01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:46,480
to have this positive community and have

2515
01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:48,320
a laugh about you know it gets too

2516
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,480
serious at times so it's good to have a

2517
01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:52,800
laugh about it too

2518
01:34:57,750 --> 01:34:55,600
associate producer akashi chris

2519
01:35:01,510 --> 01:34:57,760
everybody

2520
01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:01,520
come on artemis josh

2521
01:35:09,510 --> 01:35:04,960
thank you what you got akashi

2522
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:12,470
i am so excited that i got to talk to um

2523
01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:14,400
josh and artemis i mean are we only

2524
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:17,040
talking about and this is so awesome so

2525
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:19,840
yeah like put like a face to like the

2526
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,440
picture on twitter it's nice so yeah

2527
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:23,199
it's been a pleasure i know

2528
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:24,960
we're building something really cool

2529
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:27,040
here so i'm just excited to be part of

2530
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:29,280
it thank you dj nathan for allowing me

2531
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:31,440
to sit here and do this thank you for

2532
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:34,000
being awesome and adding to this space

2533
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:35,679
homegirl i got to tell you something

2534
01:35:39,030 --> 01:35:37,600
else so uh nathan and i've been talking

2535
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,040
about this we talked about it with

2536
01:35:43,350 --> 01:35:41,679
mataloni last time i have a feeling that

2537
01:35:45,430 --> 01:35:43,360
maybe even josh and artemis would come

2538
01:35:47,109 --> 01:35:45,440
to something like this but this coming

2539
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:47,119
summer because we want to give time

2540
01:35:51,189 --> 01:35:48,639
we're looking to put together a

2541
01:35:53,430 --> 01:35:51,199
southeast usa and take that in air

2542
01:35:55,510 --> 01:35:53,440
quotes because southeast usa is pretty

2543
01:35:57,430 --> 01:35:55,520
big i mean it goes from nathan all the

2544
01:35:58,629 --> 01:35:57,440
way to exo academia's house which is

2545
01:36:01,750 --> 01:35:58,639
like a mile

2546
01:36:03,510 --> 01:36:01,760
but anyway um no all kidding aside we

2547
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:03,520
want to put together something a hashtag

2548
01:36:08,830 --> 01:36:06,719
ufo twitter meetup where we can eat we

2549
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:08,840
can drink and we can look at the

2550
01:36:15,189 --> 01:36:14,070
um

2551
01:36:17,990 --> 01:36:15,199
yeah i know

2552
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:18,000
so yeah so that's what we want to do and

2553
01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:19,679
uh we're going to kind of we're kind of

2554
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:21,360
german let that seed germinate a little

2555
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:24,719
bit uh this sunday i think we're having

2556
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:27,520
james iandoli engaging the phenomenon

2557
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,480
i think

2558
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,480
so uh if we can get him off the squat

2559
01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:32,320
rack because right now he's got like 400

2560
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:34,000
racked up there exactly uh we'll try to

2561
01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:36,159
get him off the rack uh but yeah so

2562
01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:37,920
that's what's going down it was an honor

2563
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,639
to have you guys and and meet uh two two

2564
01:36:44,629 --> 01:36:42,719
more friends and i the only thing

2565
01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:44,639
scientifically i didn't get to was

2566
01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,159
leaving the conditioner in your hair

2567
01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:47,920
josh but we're gonna have to save that

2568
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:50,880
for next time we get together because

2569
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:53,760
i'm very concerned about your hair and

2570
01:36:57,990 --> 01:36:55,920
i'm sorry it's yeah i mean in terms of

2571
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,000
you guys as well leave them like we'd

2572
01:37:02,470 --> 01:37:00,560
like to have you guys on our show what

2573
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:02,480
wait hold on

2574
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:04,960
too sir you'd like to have us on your

2575
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:06,800
show of course

2576
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:08,320
they're making a horrible mistake but

2577
01:37:12,690 --> 01:37:10,960
yeah we'll do it this is a big big

2578
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:12,700
career screw-up

2579
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:15,360
[Laughter]

2580
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:17,440
you have moskowitz you don't want us

2581
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:30,149
hopefully i'll be more rested and have

2582
01:37:35,990 --> 01:37:34,050
more alcohol and a wild out even more

2583
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:36,000
[Music]

2584
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:38,080
yeah well it's it's like half past three

2585
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:39,840
in the morning here so yeah so i'll be

2586
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:41,440
in a different time zone next time as

2587
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:42,880
well i'll be a lot more fresh so here

2588
01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:44,719
you go be close man yeah good so much

2589
01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:47,119
for joining us

2590
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,960
for josh

2591
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,560
for artemis

2592
01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:52,320
for bunny nate

2593
01:38:02,950 --> 01:37:59,030
this is djs

2594
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:02,960
this is dj saying peace out

2595
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:04,639
one love